First grow Recirculating DWC

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And heres after training

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update

2nd day since I put them into 12/12.
I tried feeding them 600ppm into the reservoir and the nutrient level kept increasing. They seem to not like very much food, or maybe it's just one of them in the system that doesn't like it messing up the whole levels

right now it's at 525ppm and they seem to like it
yesterday i took my last clone off of Spracky, who doesn't really resemble it's name anymore at all.

pH seems to want to stay around 5.9-6.0
I'm worried that they might get too tall during the stretch for just a 250 watt light

heres some shots
Does the last shot even resemble a female preflower at all?

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pictures of the clones i took from the three plants

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Day 16 Flower...
Two plants left, had to kill the indica because it was a male

PROBLEM!
One of the plants is showing the "claw" from too much nitrogen? The other plant is just fine

I dumped out the reservoir 3 days ago, filled it with nothing but RO water, with a ppm of 50, the next day when i checked the ppm it went up to 150

I was worried about starving them from nutrients, so I added 45ml of cal-mag to 20 gallons bringing the ppm up to 350

Just now I checked the ppm and its up to 420, so I diluted it back down to 350.


What do I do to get rid of this claw?
I have been using just grow nutrients, haven't added the bloom nutrients yet because I read they need a lot of nitrogen in the first two weeks flower

Should I start using the bloom nutrients instead hoping it will get rid of the claw? Or should I flush them again?

I NEED EXPERT ADVICE! :greenthumb:

[Opie Yutts]

Hello Illusion. Nice N Bushy! I would try half grow and half bud nutes at this point. That should take care of any excess N problem. I don't understand how you can be getting burns at PPMs under 500 when you're in flowering. Usually I try to take mine to 1700 or 1800 in the middle of flowering.

Did you know the first 2 sets of photos in your grow won't expand?

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Crap! I meant to upload pictures to go along with that post!
They don't expand? hrm..

These plants have a history of being anorexic, they don't like nutrients.

Opie yutts, I think your tune will change slightly when you see these pictures. Badass nitrogen claw, and one less plant (the bushy one) so it's not so bushy anymore


Do you still think its managable?

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Still looks no better today, I don't know what to do
Added another airstone underneath the plant with the claw.

Does anyone know what I should do before it dies?
Flush?? Nutrients? Voodoo dance? Anyone?

[Opie Yutts]

What a bummer, sorry that's going on. It almost looks like it could be PH related too, but I don't know. The good news is I think it's completely reversible. The first thing I would do is drain as much as you can and fill the res with nothing but PH'd water. If you have some flushing agent (or if you can get some) it would probably be good to add per directions. Let it sit for 15 minutes or so then do it again. The second time let it sit for several hours (3-12?) before draining and feeding again. But this time when you feed make sure of everything: PH, PPM, and nutrients. If you believe it is N claw, then don't give her so much N. That far into flowering she needs to be concentrating on P and K, and the proper micro nutrients.

I can't tell for sure with the HPS on, but I don't see much yellowing. Usually there is at least a little yellowing this far into flowering, which is an indication that she could use less N. If you have too much it slows down budding, so I would look around and see what people think your NPK ratios are supposed to be at this point of the grow. Either that or don't worry and just switch to a quality bud nutrient. I switch semi-gradually over the first two weeks, then it's all bud nutes and enhancers. For enhancers, I'm trying Fox Farms Open Sesame, Beastie Blooms, Cha Ching in that order. First try, we'll see. Oh yeah, I'm also going to flush this time to see if I can tell any difference. Everyone keeps beating me over the head, telling me what a moron I am for not flushing, so I'm thinking like 50,000 people can't be wrong, right?
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[Opie Yutts]

After all you've been through and experienced, I'm pretty sure you need more than one dot of rep. I'll do what I can.

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Yeah boooy, welcome to level 2.