QUOTE: from devil on my left, in response, as i read your last post aloud
" DUDE, YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPOT - YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPOT "
haven't run this all by angel on the right, talk to him later.

anyway. its so hard to navigate a path without tons of people closing doors on ideas, argg. i will have to begin to experiment... i will reup for the worst ones. did you say turn them sideways. as in lay them down on the ground. like sideways on the ground, , and leave them there, this seems radical. i guess height isnt that bad of a problem. but cool idea ?

REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYONE SAYS; to me your analysis especially the most recent is flawless. i belive your diagnosis is completely correct, thanks for your input. i wll run some test groups.