Very very true that you can preach until you are blue in the face but no one hears it until its something THEY need. If you run a search on hermies here....you will find no LESS than 10 (and probably a LOT more) references to using Reverse to stop the problem by ME ALONEand god knows HOW many from otherse who use the product. Yet only NOW am I seeing people actually stop, read, spend the bucks, and actually use the stuff. It's so HARD being so FAR ahead of the game.......:S2: