CFL Bagseed, Take 2

[melodious fellow]

Thanks for the pointers Z!

Heaven, drop me a link to yo grow thread, definitely would love some company during this, especially if we are close in grow time!

I was hoping the older plant would come back, but if it doesn't by end of this week, it will be removed.

My larger pot had 10 or so little sprouts, while the other pot had one. Now, each pot has about 5-6 little seedlings.

I really don't have room at all for any more pots.

Should I just decide who to keep now before more roots grow and get tangled, or can I do this as sort of a ghetto SOG and grow 2 or 3 plants per pot and keep them all small, LST, and flower early?

peace

[Zcomp]

Yeah dude, good thinking. You can totally prune and LST your way to victory. If you could find room later, maybe add a screen.
Males will be your bane. I think you could cover them in a plastic bag though until the grow was over.
If heaven has a log, You can search it out on there profile. Check out some of mine, I've done ScroG, LST. Sativa dom and Indica dom. All soil.

[Roughrider]

Looks good, man! I'll be watching this too. I completely agree about getting separate pots and using new soil...you can fit plenty of 16 oz. part cups in an area of less than 1 sq. ft., and that will do for at least the first few weeks. I only transplant once, so I start in 5.5" pots....you an get four of those in an are aof less than 1 sq. ft.

7000 lumens is enough for one good sized plant. 12,000 lumens is putting you near the two plant area, or a really good SCROG or SOG grow over about a 2 sq. ft. area. Don't worry too much about having â??moreâ?� light between veg and flower. Your plants naturally get and use more light as they get bigger...they have more area for light energy to strike as they grow and the number/size of leaves increases. I don't know how wide/deep/tall your grow are is, so it's hard to tell when to switch to 12/12 and flower. You can expect a plant to double or more in height when you go to flower.

[melodious fellow]

Will def. check out your logs, Z! I appreciate the help, as there have been quite a few discourages during the times I have tried to grow...

Thanks for stopping by Roughrider. I am growing in a large 22 gallon bucket that is an estimated 2.5 feet tall or so, minus 6-8 inches in height for the pots, leaves me with around 2 vertical feet of grow space. The diameter at the bottom of the bucket is prolly 16 inches or so, while the top is prolly 24 or 30 inches in diameter.

About to go check on my babies in a few, will update later.

Roughrider, I started them in somewhat larger pots, hoping that I wouldn't have to transplant at all this grow. Next grow, however, I am going to learn from this and start in small jiffy pots and transplant those directly into the soil of larger pots later.

Z, would it be better to cover the males in plastic bags, or should I just remove them since I am short on space anyway...

brb

[Zcomp]

only 1 problem removing them. Once you cut the stem, the roots will start to die/rot. Thats why I mentioned the bags, You could keep them alive without seeding your crop.
If you try to pull the males out, you'll still lose some roots and possibly damage nearby roots.
I say, once you find the males, your gonna have 10-12*1' plants. Most every plant I've grown doesn't show sex until about 1'.
Just make sure there is a "next grow", Everyone deserves to smoke there own pride.

[melodious fellow]

Today's update:

Currently light-bulb-vaping some seedless trying to remind myself why I am going through all this work! I will feel very accomplished if there is actually a harvest this time..

grow 1: Large outdoor, busted/stolen

grow 2: Single outdoor, 12 inch plant vanished

grow 3: Outdoor, died when brought inside.

grow 4 (current): There doesn't seem to be much changing in the last few days. The larger, white pot is the control group and the smaller, reddish pot is the experimental.

Wow it has been 40 minutes since I started this post. haha. weeeed.

Well I can't remember what else I am subpost to post about.

O yea. The EP (exprmt. pot) is the one I transplanted a few of the extra seedlings from the CP into. It seems only 2 (of 4 or 5) are surviving. The EP doesn't have any healthy seedlings at all, just 2 runts. The CP has 7 ot so seedlings, 3 of which are vigorous, however, one is stretching a bit.

I wanted to transplant into smaller jiffy pots today as Roughrider suggested, but I realized then they would be much lower than the other pots and the lighting would either be too far away from the jiffy pots or not close enough to the larger pots unless I transplanted ALL of them into jiffy pots, which would be nuts.

Um. .. drums by grateful dead... yeah! O yea, I removed the large fan in the pic bc it did not seem to be putting out much air. Surprisingly, the micro version of that fan, made by the same company (O2 Cool) puts out much more air than its larger, 5x the price brother. Weird...

And the other day, I bought a Ph meter and a moisture meter from Ace Hardware and the moisture meter is straight (but now I am learning to eye it) but the more expensive Ph meter is pretty lame. It doesn't seem accurate at all, and before every use, one must shine it with this oil pad, carefully avoiding the probe tip, blah blah, stick in soil, rotate multiple times for max exposure, wait 60 seconds, if Ph between 3-5, repeat after wiping clean and re-oilig. If between 7-9, repeat without cleaning... blah blah. Isn't that ridiculous? O yea, and they said no returns once it has been used in the soil. I was like WTF? How was I supposed to know it was broken if I did not use it?

O Yea, and it won't read Ph of liquids.

I have more to write, but afraid I shall lose my connection soon, so posting now.

Peace

[Zcomp]

I use a regular aquarium freshwater PH kit. When I water, I just check the runoff.
As far as soil moisture, All you gotta do is lift the pot dry then lift it wet. Notice the diff in weight. Then theres the "stick your pinky an inch or two into the soil" to check for moisture. Also your plants will start to droop if they are too dry or too wet.

[melodious fellow]

She survived my Noob abuse and never hermed. That abuse included heat(100F-125F in my attic), irregular light cycles(moving it from location to location), light leaks(before I light sealed), Nute abuse, PH below 5, Premature Nug Theft, and just about any abuse a Noob does when setting up to grow.
.

Damn dude. Look at all those trichs on your plants. You are ridiculously talented for someone who referred to their growing skills as noob abuse.

I used to germinate mutated genetic pink lady apples from their seeds inside the parent apples, then transplant them to pots and grow these amazing apples, but I can't seem to even keep a cannabis plant alive...

I sir, am the noob. Not thee. haha.

Peace

[melodious fellow]

only 1 problem removing them. Once you cut the stem, the roots will start to die/rot. Thats why I mentioned the bags, You could keep them alive without seeding your crop.
If you try to pull the males out, you'll still lose some roots and possibly damage nearby roots.
I say, once you find the males, your gonna have 10-12*1' plants. Most every plant I've grown doesn't show sex until about 1'.
Just make sure there is a "next grow", Everyone deserves to smoke there own pride.

Hmm. I don't plan on trying to grow more than 4 plants, m a y b e five. Because I only have two 8-10inch pots and a maximum of 16,000 lumens available.

How do I go about with this bag method? I don't want to start a fire, CFLs do get a bit hot, and won't the plant suffocate? Can you teach me this bag method?

You worrying me a bit with that last line bro...
"make sure there is a next grow because I deserve to smoke some of my own..." You are not thinking this grow will fail are ya? Maybe I am just too high

Peace

[melodious fellow]

Having a coral (saltwater) tank, I wondered, too. Since I didn't know what interactions a marine additive would have on terrestrial micronutes, soils and ferts, I figured I'd better stick with traditional methods. (too broke to be overly-creative, lol)
When I lived in Vegas, the municipal water smelled strongly of chlorine. Filling a 5 gallon bucket with the water, and letting it set uncovered for a day, the chlorine smell disappeared. (isn't chlorine in muni. water supply a gas?)
HTH
Also, adjusting local water to use on plants, both outdoors and houseplants, is common. Shouldn't raise suspicions at all.

I re-checked the bottle. It removes chlorine, chloramines, and ammonia. It says safe to all aquatic life at even higher dosages than recommended. I think I shall use it on my experimental pot.