i heard that herpes can be also spread from door knobs, toilet seats and ect... but only way they spread is from an open herpe sore touching something then touches you. the transmission rate for herpes is pretty high. i got this from the web "by the age of 50 more than 80% of American women will have contracted at least one strain of genital HPV" imagine when you get older that when you meet a girl that 8 of 10 has it. so imagine how men's ratio to herpes is going to be. i even heard that some herpes even penetrate through condoms~! nice thread tho, really made me do some thinkin