Quote Originally Posted by Purple Banana
No, because we can actively see and observe these natural processes. It's simply much more rewarding.

Why does it bother you that people have psychedelic experiences who do not believe in a deity? Should we not be allowed to experience it? Everyone experiences psychedelics in different states of mind, why should this deity issue be any different?
Just because you can actively see and observe the natural processes means a god didn't create it? That doesn't make any sense.

I'm just curious... most, if not all, psychedelics come from different cultures/tribes who use it for spiritual purposes. It seems many have 'westernized' it though to mean nothing.
I never said you shouldn't be allowed to experience it. This experience is something built-in that every person can access.

The way spirituality is described is
"Having to do with deep feelings and beliefs, including a personā??s sense of peace, purpose, connection to others and beliefs about the meaning of life."

That seems very similar to my experiences with cannabis. Deep feelings and beliefs (much deeper than normal thinking). A sense of inner peace (thoughts aligned, content), purpose (in your face reality -- everything is more purposeful), connection to others (as you said, feeling one with earth, connection to earth, plants, living things, nature, etc) and beliefs about the meaning of life (I OFTEN go into deep philosophical thinking about the meaning of life.. there is no way of knowing for sure, but you can have beliefs and theories)

I'm just wondering if people experience something similar to that spiritual experience above, or if experiences are so completely different with other people, or if we are simply misinterpreting the definition of spirituality.

I'm not talking about a deity.. I've never encountered one on any of my experiences (although I think it is certainly possible with certain plants.. especially DMT, on high enough dose, the right set and setting and mindset -- going in really deep throughout it all). And I'm not saying that the deity is God.. I think God is all around us, in nature, the universe and in our selves.