Why are a lot of people who smoke marijuana/do psychedelics atheists?

[phx123]

Most pot smokers I have known in the past believed in god. I am an agnostic leaning towards the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Yeah... a lot of people do believe in god as well.

I guess it makes sense what someone said earlier... it is more so what you believed before you've had these experiences. I suppose I just find that kind of strange because I consider these vision plants spiritual tools... Whether you are not opening yourselves up enough is a different, perhaps more difficult question.

[Purple Banana]

My cousin gets extreme intellectual insights when he smokes; he's an architecht. I don't think he's ever had anything BUT ideas come out of a psychedelic experience, I'll have to ask him.

[phx123]

Wow this is an excellent thread...


Anyways, I think the answer is quite simple: you see past the bullshit in life; god seems like an imaginary being (which he is, in my opinion)

Yeah, well, I guess that is maybe the thing... for me, god does not seem like an imaginary being... for me he is more REAL than ever!

I don't know if 'he' is the correct word, because I don't really know what God exactly is. Is there a name for me? I typically say I'm spiritual but do not affiliate myself with any religion...

And yea, this is a great thread.. I am learning a lot

[phx123]

I think many people talk about what they see, what they gather from these experiences... but I don't really see many people talk about what they feel during these experiences.. and I think that may be one of the more important things. Perhaps its just more harder to put into words.

[1puff2puff3puff]

No one trying to change your opinon, I am just stating mine. , I know God gave us Free Will, and that also goes with accepting Him or not cause He wants us to do that freely....

[EbelEyes]

Simply because we don't believe in a theistic being doesn't mean we're unable to feel one with ourselves or nature. That's why psychedelic use in general is also very personal, because it's not only spiritual enlightenment, but intellectual enlightment and emotional discoveries. I don't need to believe in a deity in order to learn something from an insight or revelation, it simply occurs.

You just explained what I was going to explain!

[phx123]

What if someone said God isn't a deity... God is you, God is Nature, God is the Universe... God is everything?
Then would you say you believed in God?

[Unknown American]

What if someone said God isn't a deity... God is you, God is Nature, God is the Universe... God is everything?
Then would you say you believed in God?

I would believe that.

[Purple Banana]

No, because that's not what I believe. I think nature is independent from any higher power.

[phx123]

No, because that's not what I believe. I think nature is independent from any higher power.

So what if I said the Universe is God? Obviously we know the universe is EXTREMELY powerful, and thus could be considered a higher power.