Quote Originally Posted by 4.2O
People need to realize that if we said certain things now it would be considered "distasteful" or "unsympathetic" but eventually we will have no option. The sad truth is that I personally believe we will have to start killing off those people who are statistically less likely to do anything good for the world. It's terrible but the Earth's carrying capacity simply isn't high enough for the rate we are making babies. Sex just feels too good i guess...
This sounds a bit Nazi too me. Who is going to decide who deserves to live? You? A bunch of white guys? A bunch of black guys?

Don't worry too much about this. After The Collapse, natural selection will decide who is fit enough to survive, so there's no need to get a jump on it by killing off the weak.

Quote Originally Posted by Stemis516
meh, if everyone in the world gathered in the same place and stood an arms length apart form each other we could fit us all in texas.....do the calculations, seriously


were not running out of room
The problem is not running out of space to stand. The problem is running out of resources and places to put our waste. It takes many acres of land to produce all that a single person consumes. And apparenlty the entire planet is not enough space to put all of our CO2. As you said, "do the calculations, seriously."

Quote Originally Posted by Stemis516
clearly, as demonstrated here in the states and other well off nations were not running out of food either.....its just the issue of equal and fair distribution that we need to worry about because everyone deserves food
People eat well in the developed countries, but a lot of that food comes from other places. You are right that "everyone deserves food." But in many cases we eat well BECAUSE of unfair and unequal distribution that takes food away from other people.

One example is fish that are caught by large commercial fishing business and are frozen and sold in the US and in Europe --- the fish are overfished in other countries, leaving nothing for locals to eat, causing starvation, disease, and death. There are many examples of this kind of thing, not just in relation to fishing --- it happens when a commercial interest can take control of a local resource and sell it to the highest bidder all over the globe. Local poor people lose out, and rich developed countries get the resource and are seldom even aware where it came from. You might think there is no food problem, because your store is always stocked, but that food came from somewhere --- maybe right out of someone elses mouth.

Quote Originally Posted by Tony1234567890
Go 50 miles in ANY direction and you will be in the middle of fucking nowehere buy property, when you get old you can sell it and retire.

There is no such thing as over crowding or over population except in Tokyo. I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles and if I take the I10 (main east/west artery in SoCal) east for 20 miles I am in the middle of nowhere. If I take the I5 (again, major north/south artery in SoCal) more then 30 miles, I am in the middle of nowhere and this is Los Angeles, not Iowa, Montana, Nebreska, Idaho, Dakotas, Colorado, etc.

The population could explode by 20 in the next 100 years and we still wouldn't run out of space.

More housing = more jobs = more stores = more everything.
The problem is not space, it is resources. You live in LA, which is a prime example. There is plenty of room for the people, and plenty of room to build more houses, shopping malls, etc., but not enough water. Even 60 years ago there was not enough water.

You say you can go 50 miles in any direction and you will be in the middle of nowhere. Years ago, LA bought water rights in the Owens valley and destroyed the agricultural industry there. It may have seemed like the middle of nowhere to people in LA, but people did make a nice life there in the middle of nowhere, and overpopulation in LA caused LA to take those people's resources and destroy those people's nice lives. Now LA draws water from hundreds of miles away, and draws other resources from all over the planet.

Overpopulation is the root of all the other enviromental problems. There is not enough food, water, fuel and other resources for all the people. In the developed world, our economies allow us to get those resources from other places, but all the money in the world won't buy us any more when the planet just plain runs out.
dragonrider Reviewed by dragonrider on . What will we do about Population Growth/Overcrowding?? The world population continues to rise at a very rapid pace. The population will be like double what it is now in MY lifetime. Eventually we will have to do SOMETHING. What do you think the answer is? Laws restricting the number of kids we can have? Space Colonization? Genocide? Its scary to think about because you know something DRASTIC will have to happen. The Earth simply cannot support the number of people who will be living in this world in the not so distant future? Rating: 5