Who here likes Ron Paul?

[Fencewalker]

First question - would ANY of you who said you would vote for Ron Paul do so if he were ANTI-MARIJUANA?

Yes.

Second question - Why?

Because he is a true Republican. For limited federal government and a return to following the constitution...You know, that quaint document that is supposed to be the backbone of this country.

Third question - What are your ages - the ones who want to vote for Ron Paul, and...

44

Fourth question - Are you registered to vote?

Yes.

Remember, voting is a PRIVILEGE.

Wow. Just wow. No, voting is not a "privilege". It's a right.

Ron Paul wants to bring our troops on and quit the fight against terror - apparently he'd rather do it on the streets of New York. Hmmmm... kinda isolationist, don't ya think?

Not at all isolationist in my opinion. Non-interventionist, yes. We cannot continue to wage "war" against ideals. War on "Terror". War on "Drugs". War on "Poverty".

Btw, since we are measuring internet penii...My dad was in Korea, my brother was stationed in Vietnam and I was a member of the 3rd Infantry stationed in Panama in the 80's.

My brother and I support Ron Paul. My dad doesn't support anybody.

[EbelEyes]

btw the war on terror is a joke. you know its the longest war in US history now, right?

I'd honestly say the War on Drugs is the longest war we've been doing. This country has been demonizing and arresting drug users for quite sometime now.

[Esaron]

true, but thats not a war per se. were not fighting with guns against people with guns, were not sending tanks up against dealers... the war on drugs is even more of a joke than the war on terror... but the war on terror is a WAR

[EbelEyes]

I will agree with you, the War on Terror is a fucking joke. However war is war, and the War on Drugs deffinetly qualifies as war.

War
- Noun
1. a conflict carried on by force of arms, as between nations or between parties within a nation; warfare, as by land, sea, or air.

[Mr. Purple]

stoner, seeing as how youre entire family seems like its been military, i can hardly expect a different response. however, its different today than it was when you were there. you may think you get accurate info just because "your sons" are in it, but it appears you are not. have you ever heard of blackwater? im sure you have, if you read the ny times. why dont you go ahead and explain to me why were using them. go ahead and try to give me a reasonable answer that doesnt point to a government spiraling towards oppression and corruption.

U: Show me where I said anything close to being non-bullshit on anything I've said. Geez...
U earlier: I read this entire thread, and it seems to me that, and NO offense to anyone, that many of you are very young and have not researched the candidates as well as you should have.
Remember, voting is a PRIVILEGE. YOU are the one who says who's in and who's out. I urge each of you to vote with intelligence after MUCH research.


ok... so you call us very young, and imply we are unintelligent and have not done any research. You think saying "NO offense" is going to make that ok?

U: So making the future of our children SAFE (or in my case, my grandchildren), so THEY won't have to refight this same war on terror in the future, isn't worth ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND, NO MATTER WHO HAS TO PAY IT, to see your children live in a peaceful world. And then, we've freed two countries from tyrannical rule, and are on our way to stabilization OF THOSE COUNTRYS.

wow... what weird logic... lets keep a war going for longer than ever before, accomplish nothing, and assume that in the end it will "save our children". refight this same war? they wont? oh i get it, thats cuz theyll still be fighting the same one. if you want your children to live in a peaceful world, dont send them to the military like dad, and dont continue to fight this war... its not our job to stabilize those countries... its their job. just like it wasnt our job to come in and "save" them.


U: Oh, and about the part where nothing would ever have been done in this country. Hell, not much IS getting done in this country today. THAT'S the problem!

There's plenty gettin done... its just either a change in the wrong direction or a slight change in other areas that we havent talked about much... like energy and fuel economy standards.

U: Sorry, I just can't see Ron Paul as getting anywhere, period. He won't get the nomination, and even if some wild-eyed group were to wage war of write-ins, he wouldn't get a drop in the bucket compared to the ones who'll WIN the nimination. Americans are sometimes afraid of change. Sadly, change has already been deemed a neccessity in this world already. And it sure as hell was'nt our fault.


I agree with you. he wont get the nomination, but that doesnt mean he shouldnt. if youre such a fan of change, then whats wrong with RP? dont like the changes he wants to make? I sure as hell do. and the only reason he WONT get the nomination is because people who could make a difference decide its not worth it because hes "not going to win"



Im starting to stop caring about this... ive learned from experience that after youve gone through the military's shit you dont ever really think the same. You can vote how you want, so can we. My point was... dont accuse us of being uninformed of the issues and dont imply that we arent intelligent. you wanna know other reasons why i like RP? go look at his website (ronpaul2008.com i think) and look under the issues tab. I agree with EVERYTHING THERE except for his private property solution to pollution... tahts a little stupid imho.

I agree with everything you said, but some are misinformed, but i apologize as it gives me no right to insult others.

It just agitated me. and i heavily agree on the afraid of change.

But why not? Are we satisfied now with the way america is going?

I don't see why we don't take a chance, thats how america came to be right?

I say with another president i fear there may be an uproar, cause as far as i now there are americans not afraid of taking it to the street rather than a ballat poll.

Imo i would like to see a change and see how it would go
cause we could just impeach the guy.

Which comes to consider why didn't we do this with bush, and its obvious sum agree with his methods.

I just find that beyond belief....call me ignorant...but
theres a fine line.

[rastadub33]

Overall I think Ron Paul is all right. There are some parts of his views I strongly disagree with, like reverting back to the Gold Standard, and his views on health-care. Despite that he's got my vote if he makes it. He's consistent on his tax policy and pledge to cut spending, views on states-right issues, and personal liberty.

About the Gold Standard issue. He does believe in that but admits that it probably wouldn't ever happen again. Some people just need to understand that just because he has his own personal views on things that it does not necessarily mean he is going to implement them. For example, he is against marijuana and has never even tried it but he does want it to be legalized and also wants to give the states the right to do so. He just wants the Federal Govt. to stay out of our own personal business.. He believes that his own views shouldn't mold the govt. He feels we all have the right to personal freedom...

[Mr. Clandestine]

About the Gold Standard issue. He does believe in that but admits that it probably wouldn't ever happen again.

Well, he admits that the old procedure was flawed, and would admittedly like to see a 'New Gold Standard'. I don't know a whole lot about his fiscal policies and ideals, but I know he isn't a fan of either the IRS or the Federal Treasury. I can't blame him, because I also happen to agree that the Treasury isn't working for the American people, but rather a group of elite bankers...and many of whom are non-Americans.

The general consensus of this thread has been pretty consistent; vote Ron Paul if you want to elect a President who'll stand for change. A vote for many of the other candidates is just a vote to keep everything the same -- same archaic laws, same "obedience to Big Brother" mentality, same unrest among American citizens...

[Old Stoner]

bestbet -

Do you know than Osama Bin Laden said he is glad the US is in Iraq cause this way he can have both the Shiites and Sunnis unite and fight against America, and the longer the US is in Iraq the easier it is for him to do this

Yea, UBL said that. Fuynny thing is, it ISN'T working out that way for him. The surge is WORKING, and Iraqi's, both Shiite and Sunni, are turning in the Terrorists in record numbers. And it is catching all over the country. People are uniting in the fight against people who come into their country to kill by terror. Those people, incidentally, ARE the IRAQIS.

You don't read the papers? See the news? Hmmm...

[Old Stoner]

Mr. Purple -

If this guy does not become president, im out of this country within the next few
yrs.

Guess there's nothing left to say but enjoy your trip.

Wow dude were not fighting terroism, notice something everything everyone asks are totally opposite of what
he believes? Why......odd.

Nah, we're not fighting terrorists at all. We are fighting a peace loving bunch of radical muslims, who are just defending themselves, right? It''s ALL America's fault, right? ROFLMAO... You MUST be a youngster.... Geez...

9/11 wasn't a inside job, but we asked for it.

Man, it took me a few minutes to stop laughing at THAT one... Just like I said before, you and many others think it's all our fault. HILARIOUS. Do ANYONE of you remember a little ditty called Worl War II? WE - THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - kept Europe from speaking GERMAN. And defeated the Japanese, who were only after expanding their empire, same as Hitler. But yea, we asked for it alright.... Geez... America has done MORE GOOD in this world than ANY OTHER NATION. WHERE ELSE would you rather live? I suggest you go there, quickly...

Man this shit really fucking pisses me off, when alot of people are misinformed but thats okay though i can deal with that.

Yes, and you my friend are one of those people. People who lack doing the proper research is what pisses me off... And you'd fall under that area as well. Not intendeding to degrade or diss you, but I do believe you need to do a tad more research. And maybe you should TALK to some of the returning soldiers. The MAJORITY believe we are doing the RIGHT thing in Iraq.

[Old Stoner]

Mr. Purple Part II -

Whether or not there were WMDs matters not. Almost the ENTIRE FREE WORLD believed Saddam had them. Nevertheless, NO ONE from the administartion EVER said that Saddam was involved in 9/11. You and tons of others are taking too much out of context, and taking too much the major news ops say as gospel. Good grief...

If this guy doesn't become president, im leaving this country for the idiot's that ruined it.

Well, I guess this is goodbye then - have a safe trip!