stoner, seeing as how youre entire family seems like its been military, i can hardly expect a different response. however, its different today than it was when you were there. you may think you get accurate info just because "your sons" are in it, but it appears you are not. have you ever heard of blackwater? im sure you have, if you read the ny times. why dont you go ahead and explain to me why were using them. go ahead and try to give me a reasonable answer that doesnt point to a government spiraling towards oppression and corruption.

U: Show me where I said anything close to being non-bullshit on anything I've said. Geez...
U earlier: I read this entire thread, and it seems to me that, and NO offense to anyone, that many of you are very young and have not researched the candidates as well as you should have.
Remember, voting is a PRIVILEGE. YOU are the one who says who's in and who's out. I urge each of you to vote with intelligence after MUCH research.


ok... so you call us very young, and imply we are unintelligent and have not done any research. You think saying "NO offense" is going to make that ok?

U: So making the future of our children SAFE (or in my case, my grandchildren), so THEY won't have to refight this same war on terror in the future, isn't worth ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND, NO MATTER WHO HAS TO PAY IT, to see your children live in a peaceful world. And then, we've freed two countries from tyrannical rule, and are on our way to stabilization OF THOSE COUNTRYS.

wow... what weird logic... lets keep a war going for longer than ever before, accomplish nothing, and assume that in the end it will "save our children". refight this same war? they wont? oh i get it, thats cuz theyll still be fighting the same one. if you want your children to live in a peaceful world, dont send them to the military like dad, and dont continue to fight this war... its not our job to stabilize those countries... its their job. just like it wasnt our job to come in and "save" them.


U: Oh, and about the part where nothing would ever have been done in this country. Hell, not much IS getting done in this country today. THAT'S the problem!

There's plenty gettin done... its just either a change in the wrong direction or a slight change in other areas that we havent talked about much... like energy and fuel economy standards.

U: Sorry, I just can't see Ron Paul as getting anywhere, period. He won't get the nomination, and even if some wild-eyed group were to wage war of write-ins, he wouldn't get a drop in the bucket compared to the ones who'll WIN the nimination. Americans are sometimes afraid of change. Sadly, change has already been deemed a neccessity in this world already. And it sure as hell was'nt our fault.


I agree with you. he wont get the nomination, but that doesnt mean he shouldnt. if youre such a fan of change, then whats wrong with RP? dont like the changes he wants to make? I sure as hell do. and the only reason he WONT get the nomination is because people who could make a difference decide its not worth it because hes "not going to win"



Im starting to stop caring about this... ive learned from experience that after youve gone through the military's shit you dont ever really think the same. You can vote how you want, so can we. My point was... dont accuse us of being uninformed of the issues and dont imply that we arent intelligent. you wanna know other reasons why i like RP? go look at his website (ronpaul2008.com i think) and look under the issues tab. I agree with EVERYTHING THERE except for his private property solution to pollution... tahts a little stupid imho.