Who here likes Ron Paul?

[dragonrider]

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[epxroot]

Ron Paul wants to privatise many aspects of government that I do not think should be privatised. And he wants to deregulate many industries that I do not think should be deregulated.

I do not like Ron Paul.

Could you please go into some more detail on this?

[dragonrider]

Could you please go into some more detail on this?

The example I probably care most about is Ron Paul's opposition to environmental regulation. He favors pursuing polluters through a private property rights approach, which I don't think works. In some cases you need an agency to oversee pollution or other environemntal degradation that occurs on private property.

[Jouryokujin]

Yea i will have to say that no i do not like ron paul. he is absolutely ridiculous. I really just dont like him and his views on things.

Im for OBAMA!!! Who here is for obama?

So you like the patriot act?...Because Obama loves it...Also, check out what he thinks about war with Iran and Pakistan. Check out his voting record. Check out his plan for "universal healthcare" (hint: it's not really universal healthcare...more like a scam to benefit insurance companies). I personally don't think Obama would even have a chance if he didn't look like he might be a young black guy (even this is up for debate!).

I wasn't sure if there has been a candidate worth voting for since Jefferson....Then Ron Paul came around.

[naturelovinpuffer]

I don't feel that we are EVER going to have universal health care I don't know if you have noticed but the government is just money hungry. I don't even think ron paul could get a act together about universal health care. America is NOT about the FAMILY and other people they are about themselves so i don't feel anyone can get universal health care for the US

[Jouryokujin]

The example I probably care most about is Ron Paul's opposition to environmental regulation. He favors pursuing polluters through a private property rights approach, which I don't think works. In some cases you need an agency to oversee pollution or other environemntal degradation that occurs on private property.

Have you ever had your emissions checked (your vehicle)? If you have, and you failed the test, you'd realize our current system of environmental protection doesn't work either. You fail that test, you pay them a fine, and you're off to go....You don't need to fix your car....you pay....and I don't think that money scrubs our air clean. As far as regulating emissions from factories, why can't states and the people do this? The only reason people are apathetic nowdays is because they've lived in a system they have no control in all their lives...when you have no control, why care? Caring in a system like that only leads to stress....

[JDMBoy420]

Im going to register and vote for Ron paul..! everyone else has there head up there culo's or trying to make their puppet masters happy.. nuff said :stoned:

[dragonrider]

Have you ever had your emissions checked (your vehicle)? If you have, and you failed the test, you'd realize our current system of environmental protection doesn't work either. You fail that test, you pay them a fine, and you're off to go....You don't need to fix your car....you pay....and I don't think that money scrubs our air clean. As far as regulating emissions from factories, why can't states and the people do this? The only reason people are apathetic nowdays is because they've lived in a system they have no control in all their lives...when you have no control, why care? Caring in a system like that only leads to stress....

I'm not sure where you live, but the emissions control doesn't work that way here --- if you don't pass, you don't get a registration tag, and the car cannot be driven. Anyway, I'm not sure where you are going with that argument. Are you saying that pollution regulations don't work well enough, so we don't need them at all? I'm pretty sure that if no one was required to pass a smog check, and we just left it all up to individuals, then most people would not bother checking if their car was running clean or not, and the air would be dirtier.

But I wasn't talking about smog checks on cars, which are already handled under state law, not a matter for presidential politics. I'm talking more about things like the endangered species act, clean air act, clean water act, and others that are handled at the federal level. Ron Paul's position is that imposing restrictions on what a person or company can do on their own land is a form of "taking" or "eminent domain" and he opposes it. He feels that if pollution or other environmental problem spills over onto someone elses land, then that other owner has a legal recourse to prevent the other person's pollution from polluting their land --- so it is all handled as a private property issue. It doesn't work. An endagnered species does not have it's own lawyers and doesn not own land, so that form of protection does not work for endangered species. Also, if you do not prevent pollution from occuring on an ongoing basis, then by the time the pollution has already occured and the second landowner decides to sue, the polluter can basically declare bankrupcy, and nothing gets done. I think sometimes a government agency is required to handle these things.

[dragonrider]

One I am female dont talk to me like i am your fucking gang buddy. and two the reason why we have a low turn out in oregon is because this is a very liberal state and well the people in oregon are smart for not voting, i feel its every man for himself completely. I.E like food stamps and welfare . . who is on that .. hmm the i think we all know. People who are lazy!!! im so sorry to say it but those people are lazy. GET off your ass and get a job, make a better life for yourself and your kids.

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*Nature


So to bad I wont vote just becasue people tell me i need to. their are thousands of other cazy ass people who like politics. i feel its a headache.

It's interesting that you think it should be every man for himself, but earlier you sounded like you were in support of universal health care. It doesn't seem consistent.

I personally am in favor of some kind of minimum level of universal health care. Ron Paul is not. He is definitley more of an every-man-for-himself kind of guy.

[texas grass]

ill vote for paul, but the states and polls wont let us vote for him, or hardly actnoledge him

hes the only candidate that cares of the origional constitution
hes the only candidate that shows he cares for the citizens
hes the only candidate that says the citizens should have the say so