Vaginismus

[Frontios]

A question for anyone with medical expertise out there -

Any idea if moderate use of pot could assist the initial overcoming (treatment) of secondary vaginismus, that is the condition in a woman which causes penetrative sex to be impossible due to involuntary clamping of the PC muscles?

This is not related to lack of foreplay etc. rather a pyschological re-inforcement due to previous painful experience, resulting in a physical stalemate.

I've read plenty of statements on marijuana's ability to encourage general muscle relaxation but I can't find anything on the net relating to its possible use in cases of vaginismus.

Just to emphasize that this query does not relate to improving sex but rather to enabling penetration in an already long term relationship that currently enjoys a loving and fulfilling general sex life.

Having tried many other techniques (including dilation) I would really appreciate if anyone with similar experiences or knowledge could advise me on this subject.

all the best.
looking forward to your responses.

Frontios Reviewed by Frontios on 12-09-2007. Vaginismus A question for anyone with medical expertise out there - Any idea if moderate use of pot could assist the initial overcoming (treatment) of secondary vaginismus, that is the condition in a woman which causes penetrative sex to be impossible due to involuntary clamping of the PC muscles? This is not related to lack of foreplay etc. rather a pyschological re-inforcement due to previous painful experience, resulting in a physical stalemate. I've read plenty of statements on marijuana's Rating: 5

[SantaClawz]

Have you smoked cannabis before?

[GreenLadyOfDankDowns]

Hey Frontios, welcome. Some patients use it to treat the tremors and muscle spasms associated with Parkinson's and MS so I'd say there is a good chance that cannabis could help you. I don't know how much you actually know about cannabis (if you don't know much, this is a great place to learn), but there are different types and strains of the plant. A strain which is primarily indica is known to have more of a body stone, which means you're whole body feels very relaxed.

In my opinion, for your condition, a strain that is from the indica family or one which is mostly indica would probably help you. If you live in a location where marijuana is acceptable for med purposes you should discuss this with your doctor.

[Frontios]

Thanks for your reply!

I've smoked a handful of times in college, with friends, but really I wouldn't be a massive fan of recreational smoking - simply because on a 'fun' level the stuff I've smoked has only really made me feel tired or nothing at all - i suspect what i was smoking was very poor quality.

I feel that if I could overcome the muscle clench a couple of times even with 'artificial' help it would allow me to relax during regular sex by showing me that penetration is possible..

[Coelho]

Well... it may be a bit off topic, but anyway... if you ever know HOW MUCH more intense sex can be on weed... damn... no words can explain it... you must try it for yourself... or then look at the sexuality forums... as the link for it is somewhat lost, ill put it here:

Sexuality and Relationships - Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Lifestyle, Weed, Culture, News

Anyway... good luck! I hope you solve your problem, and enjoy the sex better! :thumbsup:

[Frontios]

I'm going to Amsterdam soon to primarily experiment with different strains of cannabis in order to test their effects in relation to my condition. You guys mentioned Indica Strain as particular useful to achieve a full body relaxation. Any particular recommendations for the Amsterdam excursion that might be of special interest to me?


Thanks in advance!

[birdgirl73]

Have you talked to your ob-gyn about the condition? I hope so. They treat it pretty frequently, and you won't have to go to Amsterdam, either. They use a graduated "artificial" method approach.

[Frontios]

Yeah I have talked to my ob/gyn, and been to various specialists etc. I've been working the dilator approach, but progress is slow - i'm basically uncomfortable with the method. I've had sex before, but not with my current partner; it's become a physical reflex effect, so I'm encouraged to try different techniques/strategies to help overcome the routine - this current line of questioning on this site being one such avenue of exploration, alongside therapies, relaxation, kegel etc etc.
Thanks though for taking my queries seriously and with care and attention

[MadSativa]

wow I am way to high for this right now, I know what a vagina is and I what an *ism* but I am frekin wasted, mabey some one could explain a little bit cause I just keep giggling and cant get passed the vaganisum part

[birdgirl73]

MadSativa, look up the term on Google, but take the proper spelling from this thread title, not from your spelling in the previous post.

Frontios, I had two friends acquaintances when I was in my 20s who had that condition. One had gotten married and discovered the condition on her wedding night (she believed in saving sex until then). Her husband was very patient and tolerant, but I've lost touch with her and don't know if that marriage survived. She was working with an ob-gyn and using the dilators, but that was as much as I ever knew. The other acquaintance had had a trauma and had that condition as a result, almost involuntarily. She did some psychotherapy as part of her recovery, and that helped a lot. Instead of the dilators, she and her partner did "digital" expansion exercises. She had to do some concentrated work on post-traumatic stress disorder before she was able to "loosen up" enough to take the digital approach. She had the same trouble at the ob-gyn, so both sex and yearly pelvic exams were downright impossible until she made some progress on her treatment.

I'm pleased that folks have treated this topic with respect and sensitivity, too. That's a tough thing to overcome. I think GreenLady's suggestion to look into Indica strains is a great one. They're known to be more body-relaxing and spasm-relieving. Sativas can heighten anxiety and tension in many people. If you go to Amsterdam, just ask at the cafes about good Indica-dominant medical strains for muscle relaxation. They can guide you better than we can, I suspect. There's certainly no need to go into details about what muscles you're referring to! Good luck with this.