Quote Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
Dude... WTF are you talking about.... I did 22 years in the military with the promise of free medical and dental for the rest of my life. I am *STILL* waiting for what was promised, as are millions of other military retirees.

If they can't live up to the contractual obligations that were promised to the military, what makes you think they are going to do it for John Q. Public???
I agree.There is no excuse.But HMO's are every bit as bad and probably worse.There definitely needs to be some sort of oversite for universal healthcare. I think the difference though is that it should be "universal". If you need to see a doctor you see a doctor period.