first off, im guilty unless i can prove myself innocent. secondly...in the pic you can tell that i am far enough under the light i didnt see it turn red. it was red for .2 seconds.....thats fucking nothing. i pay more attention to my driving than looking for red light cameras and what not...and just bc i know a light doesnt ahve a camera wont make me feel welcome to blow thru the light even if its a fresh red one. this is going to be a fine and a couple points or wahtever on my license. they cant prove its me, but gues what....i cant prove it wasnt me really so im guilty! it would just be my word against the cameras. they dont have any indication of anyhting about the driver. if they want to really prove shit maybe they should make the cameras so you can see the driver also. i could bullshit them so easy about someone else driving....sisters friends anyone man. i think im going to take the approach of making them prove it was me. when i went to the court date and told them i was going to fight it, i got another court date....but its not for a while, b/c apparently a lot of ppl are fighting it and winning it. shouldnt be a rough battle. i think they mostly agree you win if you recognize the fact that the govt just fucked you. most ppl wouldnt think twice and just pay it. i cant afford points on my licnese so im not having it. will keep you guys informed. peace.