Stinky need l liltle help

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

oh and i got a drip sys on 24/7

OLDJIMMYBONES Reviewed by OLDJIMMYBONES on 12-05-2007. Stinky need l liltle help My leaves on this plant are all fucked upp, but i got my temp at 78f and my ph is 5.78 i stoped all nutes and switches to just banicare pure grow + super thrive and i looked through the plant problem thing and i cant figure this shit out + also my other plants nivvana power plants are 45dyas old and there short as shit and mad bushy like 10' tall and 45days old, no idea (pic 3) any ideas? thanks Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

what is 'pg'? OH! per gallon. Are you using the general hydroponics stuff? You really gotta be more specific, I'll try to answer but I can't read minds.
1.23 mL/gal superthrive is WAY too mcuh. Dosage is 1 DROP per gallon. You get about 40 drops in 1 mL.

Drip system- what is your flow rate and how is it delivered? Emitters? Bare hose? Drip stakes? Other? Flow rate question is basically, is it DRIPPING or STREAMING.
Those blotches on the lower leaves are consistent with nute solution splashing constantly on the low leaves and leaching nutes out of them in a splotchy fashion.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

im usin 8ml per gallon each of:
General Hydroponics Flora Series Micro
General Hydroponics Flora Series Grow
General Hydroponics Flora Series Bloom

14ml per gallon of Liquid Karma
3ml per gallon of Cal-Mag
1.23ml of Super Thrive

Its a Constant Stream, Coming from 1/8'' Plastic Tubing

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

1st. although you got the explanation right. I use 8ml per gallon =1 unless otherwise specified. less in veg and a little more in flower.

I use well water 167ppm and add 1/4tsp superthrive per gallon to my well water. .

thats where i got the 1.23per gal of super thrive 1/4tsp=1.23ml

[stinkyattic]

That really is a very strong dosage of superthrive and I do NOT recommend it.

So... no shit, you and I are running a fairly similar hydro nute delivery system. Constant stream over hydroton actually puts you in a modified NFT setup. Do you have the tip buried in the hydroton or is there any way that water can splash, pour, or spray onto the lower leaves? I have seen that splotching in my own garden and poor control over fluid delivery was the culprit. I solved it with drip stakes pushed down as far as they would go so that the emitter section was below the lowest leaves. In those baskets, you may have to chop the stakes down to only about 4-5" total length. They're the blue ones, less than 50 cents each from the hydro shop, save ya some troubles.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

i tryed to bury em in the hydron the last time you told me(different post) but i got these plastic drip tubes and there about as flexable as a brick, and i cant get em to stay under, but i dont really see them splashing at all, but ill grab some of em drip stakes(no hydro store around so i gottta order everything online) with the super thrive u only use 1 drop per gallon? so 1/2 ml for 20gals?

[stinkyattic]

Look closely, even go in and check JUST as the lights are coming on for evidence of splashing (won't evaporate so fast). I'd hate to send you off to throw money at a problem before identifying the true cause.
Yeah, I'd go no higher than 1mL per 20 gallons on the ST. 2 drops per gallon is probably going to be fine for ya. I just suspect you're giving an awful lot of nitrogen to the point of possible overdose.

And a final comment on all this... When I've run hydro, I generally write off any low leaves less than 3-4" from the surface of the media as not only a loss (they get the splash thing for example), but as a liability for air flow and then possible mold/pest problems. I like to see the first couple inches of stem bare so I can access the drip feed and circulate air easily.

And since you have the GH micro, a foliar feed with a VERy weak solution would benefit you right now.