Wow, nuggrower thanks for the compliments. I never once tried to insinuate that I was an expert, but thank you very much for thinking so. I did not start out attacking you, only the myth. I love everybody until they give me a reason not to.

Mr. Clandestine and Rastaman, very, very well said. All of it. I mean really. It was a quote from a movie, actually several I think, but in particular Animal House. I just kinda assumed everybody who has a sense of humor would have watched that at least once in their life. I guess maybe nuggrower can't see R rated movies.

As far as the topic of this thread, it is a good one, but over done. I still am willing to learn. I would love to see this thread to get off the rants and onto the proof or side by side studies. I am always willing to change or try new things if someone shows my why it makes sense, not "I read it in a thread."