freezing here, about 4 below and seems like spring is soo far away but getting daylight earlier thank you alot for the advice, guys....so its safe to assume that 12/12 prolly won't cause hermies, ok. i don't mean to ask rookie questions, been outdoor growing for a LONG time but never had a forum to go to to ask questions and refine my technique, so i really appreciate this board, believe me my neighbor and i started seeds for outdoors on 2/2/05, a bit early i'm afraid, but should be alright. got some 4' flouros but afraid the plants may outgrow them by May. should be interesting and thanks for good company, guyz!