Phew....(lighting again)...Atleast this way I don't have to worry AS MUCH. I'll go get a therm. today...I am not sure that I want to get a donor..since I don't think I have a clean one that I can acctually go to with this issue. Don't mean to sound repetive- just finished reading the entire sub sticky but this Quick fix business is a sure thing? Smells, looks, act like urine? I'll be practicing. Thanks alot by the way!