HELP with Advanced Nutrients, PLEASE

[GodBud]

Thanks OPIE

Makes sense! What about the mixing of nutes. Does it really matter which one you put in first?

[Opie Yutts]

You're welcome, and not to me, it doesn't. I'm wrong according to some people, but when I try for 1300 PPM for example, I want 1300 PPM. Not 1435 after adding some additives or something. So I can't think why the order you put them in would matter. But hey, that's just me (and a bunch of others).

Unless of course the instructions specifically say to reach your normal target PPM, then add a certain amount.

[Abyss]

Hey guys,
I'm not sure why your supposed to add micro first but this is from Advanced Nutrients web site-- "When using Micro as part of our Grow Micro Bloom three-part feeding program, we recommend a 1:1:1 ratio. However, you can always take advantage of the program's flexibility by using a 1:2:3 ratio or a 3:2:1 ratio if that's what you're more comfortable with. We encourage you to experiment and decide on the best ratio for your needs, based on your own conclusions. Keep in mind that Micro should always be added to your reservoir first, followed by Grow, and then Bloom." --- If anyone has a definitive answer to why you are supposed to mix it first I would love to hear it.

Abyss

[PharmaCan]

I also use AN 3 pt with Calmag Plus. Is there a chart for Veg regarding ppms? My plant looks jacked up I am not sure what the ppms should be. Its about 1 month old and it just seems like it stopped growing. I didnt mix in the nutes like abyss stated. I added grow,micro then bloom then calmag plus. Could that be the problem? How I mixed them.

I'm growing in coco, so my set-up isn't exactly the same as yours. But it's hydro and I water twice a day 'till there's significant run-off.

I'm also using AN 3-part & CalMag+. I've never mixed the nutes in any special order, but something has got to be first and if AN says it should be the Micro, I'm real big on following directions from the experts. (I love how I learn new things on this forum every day!) I don't pay much attention to ppm. The plants dictate what they want, not the numbers on a chart. If you want to record the ppm #s for future reference when growing the same strain, that's great. But right now your plants don't much give a damn what your ppm meter sez.

Is your plant a clone or seed? Where are you counting that one-month age from?

Here's the protocol I follow: When the roots on the clone look like the first photo, I put them into either a 3" rockwool cube or an 18 oz. cup with coco. They are then put on B1 & tiny amount of Superthrive for the next few days while they get used to life outside the dome. After that, I mix AN M-G-B as per label directions (2ml/L) & CM+ @ 3ml/gal and start with a 1/4 strength solution. From then on in, I let the plants tell me what they want. 1/4 strength lasts for a few days, then I up it to 1/3 or 1/2, depending on what the plant wants. You increase the nutes in this manner until by about the third week out of the cloner your at full strength. For weeks three and four they are on full strength nutes and, when the plant says "hey, I really want to grow now" I start adding molasses and Sweet. When I add the molasses & Sweet, I do not cut back on the other nutes just to reach some arbitrary ppm number. As the plants get bigger they use more of the nutrient solution - they drink more - but the nutrient strength stays the same.

When you're in flower and you're trying to pump the plants full of as many nutes as you can without killing them, I suppose you need to use ppm's to some degree to regulate things in your hydro system. But your benchmarks are dictated by your strain and your plants; not by some chart.

Enjoy your grow!

PC :smokin:

[GodBud]

Is your plant a clone or seed? Where are you counting that one-month age from?

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Thats one month from since the seed was planted. Now its going on week 6. Does the plant look okay for that age. What do you think?

Seems the plant is struggling with the droop. I thought I figured it out as I was watering to much. When I cut the watering back the leaves perked up. Then last night they slightly drooped again. I went to watering every 4 hours for about 5 min on time. This morning the plant looks decent no serious droop but not stretching for the HID like I want.

One thing I did notice was that when I cut back the watering I started noticing more roots pop out the bottom of the net pot.

This is a different strain than my first grow which seemed to take off like a lightning bolt but this one is challenging me big time. Maybe I am just impatient and need to just let it do its thing. Right now the ppms are at 750sh. I was thinking the plant was more hungry so I bumped up the ppms but what do I know. Whats your honest opinion on this plant this picture was taken 5 minutes ago!

Thanks

Peace

[saltypimp]

For vegging your plant, staart with the rooted clones chart week 1-2, then start with week 3 on the vegetative feeding chart...

I use everything on the 100-% organic chart and scoprpoin juice...

i also use R/O water, do i need to add sensicalmg for my growe since i use organics.. is it needed???