was able to confirm those 2 as males so pulled them and put the plants in smaller pots into the big pots,both have now shown sex and i can confirm as females,i've tied the top of those down as well to let the branches in the light,just waiting to find the sex of 1 plant now,though it's a bit behind and started out retarded,but i'll leave it see what happens,
will post some pics later when i switch lights off