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11-19-2007, 02:19 AM #11Senior Member
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Deja just read your other post and see now why you have nitrogen everywhere. When Rhizome talked about addng grow nutes I got the feeling he meant for the first 2 weeks....I do that as well but then switch to total bloom nutes WITH CalMag by day 15 (starting number at bloom....1100...WITH LK and Sweet) (In fact Rhizome actually ragged me for having too much CalMag/nitrogen in my bloom nutes at one point.....) Confusing isn't it?
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11-19-2007, 02:58 AM #12OPSenior Member
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I got it down to 1400 PPM. My PPM meter is a SunLeaves pen meter. I calibrated it tonight and it read 1K right when I stuck it into the solution. My piece of shit pH meter is the Hanna.
As far as the nutes, I was already on like the third week when the plants started consuming themselves, so I wanted to get them stable before going to straight bloom. They have been pretty steady, so I will do straight bloom when I change it next.
The one plant is looking really really bad; dry and curled up and the top bud is kind of curling over. Is it possible that it will be able to bounce back?
And as always, thanks for the help everyone!:thumbsup:
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11-19-2007, 03:52 AM #13Senior Member
Sad, Sad Plants
thats kind of iffy if it's pretty burnt....the parts that are damaged will simply stay that way unfortunately but I couldn't tell you about new growth. Sounds bad enough....maybe it would make some nice cookies or something.
Does your ppm meter have an e/c or mS/cm reading? If so and you can get both THAT number AND the ppm number at the same time you can work out at what conversion your meter reads. All I know is that its done by some sort of calculation by the meter and some meters read x500 conversion.. (hanna) and Rhizome mentioned to me that the truncheon he likes reads at x 700 conversion. So calibrating it to its OWN solution won't tell you what the conversion is.....make any sense.? However, it may be listed in your ppm manuel.
Good luck deja..
Ps...Bloom nutes AND Cal Mag.....
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11-19-2007, 04:54 AM #14Senior Member
Sad, Sad Plants
Did you ever get your other yellowing problems fixed or are these one and the same problems dejay?
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11-19-2007, 05:39 AM #15OPSenior Member
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Yeah, the yellowing stopped, but it was pretty much too late for one of the plants. The second one to get droopy was the really yellow one and it ended up eating almost the leaves off entire bottom half of the plant. The one next to it is missing leaves off the bottom quarter or so. The tops looks well but the bottom of the one is really bare. At least two of the plants are looking very nice and healthy so my experience hasn't been a total wash.
As for the really burnt looking one, most of the leaves are soft moist and don't look like they are burned too bad so hopefully they can bounce back. That conversion stuff is way over my head, and my manual didn't say anything about it, so I have no clue. Why is it important to know?
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11-19-2007, 05:45 AM #16Senior Member
Sad, Sad Plants
No it isnt....just a fyi that ppm numbers can mean different things to different meters. Sounds to me like yours reads at a different conversion than Rhiz.
Usually when plants burn they droop and get somewhat curly looking get very soft feeling and then dry up, and turn brown. Hopefully you will see that plant going back the other way now so keep an close eye on them.
PS...if you don't see them start to improve I would consider dropping your ppm number back even more.
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11-19-2007, 05:47 AM #17OPSenior Member
Sad, Sad Plants
Yeah some of the lower leaves are at the dried brown stage, but the higher parts seems like maybe they have some life left. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I thought about dropping it back again tomorrow, but I also don't want to underfeed since only 2 of the plants are struggling with the high PPMs. I guess I will just see what happens over the next couple days. Thanks for the help!
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11-19-2007, 06:00 AM #18Senior Member
Sad, Sad Plants
No problem...hope that works for you.
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11-20-2007, 03:12 AM #19OPSenior Member
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Thought about it today and decided I should lower it more, so its at around 1050-1100 right now and my fingers are crossed. Will they perk back up after a few hours or will it take a couple days if they do at all?
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11-20-2007, 03:29 AM #20Senior Member
Sad, Sad Plants
DJ - I don't see any mention of Micro anywhere. Are you using it? My Grow is 2-1-6; Micro 5-0-1. As you can see, the Micro has a lot more N in it than the Grow.
PC :smokin:
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