Sad, Sad Plants

[dejayou30]

I have six plants that are 30 days into flower and two of them are extremely droopy with their leaves sagging. I have no idea what happened. I didn't add anything to the res but I did change it on Thursday night which was the first night after the first one started drooping. The only difference in my methods has been the addition of CalMag at half strength and I also got some Sweet that I start using Friday at 50%.

The first one that got droopy looked like a plant you would see in a magazine; nice tight nodes and young frosted buds clear up the whole thing. Then one day the leaves just lost all strength and have been hanging for about four days now. The roots look fine.

The second drooper started two days ago, and it was the one that has eaten most of its leaves due to the nitrogen deficiency. I think has some root issues because they are brown and matted together, so I have been using 1 tbsp of 30% H202 every other day since the res change Thursday to try to get them healthy again.

It looks a lot like when my mother went limp due to over/under watering, except not quite as limp. Its more the leaves sagging than the stems. I cut the waterings back to 5 over 12 hours rather than 6; one hour after lights on and before lights off and three in between. My pH is 5.6-6.1 (got a new meter) and my PPM has been 1600-1800 and I will probably dilute it back down to around 1600 tonight. Anyone have any idea what might be going on?

dejayou30 Reviewed by dejayou30 on 11-19-2007. Sad, Sad Plants I have six plants that are 30 days into flower and two of them are extremely droopy with their leaves sagging. I have no idea what happened. I didn't add anything to the res but I did change it on Thursday night which was the first night after the first one started drooping. The only difference in my methods has been the addition of CalMag at half strength and I also got some Sweet that I start using Friday at 50%. The first one that got droopy looked like a plant you would see in a Rating: 5

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

what nutes you use?

[dejayou30]

Pure Blend Pro grow and bloom.

[Weedhound]

yep.....you're way overnuting. I'd drop the number back to NO MORE than1400 and if it were me.....I'd keep it at 1300.

Can't leave you alone for a minute...eh deja?

[Weedhound]

Hold it....why are you flowering with veg nutes? Did I read that right?

[dejayou30]

Damn, I guess not! Well in my defense, in my reading online, I found a lot of people feed higher in bloom, and I found somewhere that said 1800 was about tops they would go so I have been keeping mine around 1600 and then diluting once it hits 1800. And rhizome said I probably have a heavy feeder so I have kept it a little higher. I'll see what I can drop it to once the lights turn on and hope they can turn around.

And yes, I have been using veg nutes to get a little more nitrogen. My plants were consuming themselves at an alarming rate. I and going to be switching to straight flowering nutes before Thanksgiving since what's left of the leaves have finally started being green again.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

yea lookin like nute burn

[klondike_bar]

why are there never piccies!!!!?

[Weedhound]

poor klondike.

Deja I ran into the same problem and here's the answer to it. Rhizome isn't wrong (is he ever??) but different meters read ppms differently. You and I have both have hannas....rhizomes going off a truncheon which reads differently. For a hanna meters...stick with 1500 tops with the botanicare stuff....but I'd drop back quite a ways to rest them from the nute burn and give them time to recover. In fact w/you I'd probaby drop them back to about 1/2 strength for a few.

[Weedhound]

Yes switch to the bloom nutes asap....CalMag has plenty of nitrogen in it for blooming plants. In fact, too much nitrogen in bloom can inhibit flowering so you want your CalMAg and Bloom nutes. :thumbsup: