Hydro Nute Problem with pics... Help Needed

[Weedhound]

Cannazym - 10L | Liquid Plant Nutrients

this is the one I use but I think rhizome sort of figures they are all the same...sensizyem etc

You were a good man to flush your medium, good work there. I think all you need to do....is trade in that last gallon of tap water for RO and add some CalMag and a zyme product to help with the dead roots. I feel the Calmag is NECESSARY (and would like to see all RO water so we know EXACTLY whats going in your rez) and the zyme is always a good idea.....but not so necessary.

[Weedhound]

The zyme products help break down dead root tissue but they also REALLY help to keep your ph stable as well. There are several around......

[PharmaCan]

Wow - This is such an informative conversation you two or having.

Right now I'm using Latewood's formula with pretty good success. (I dunno for sure - I'm in week eight of flower and starting to get a lot of yellowing, so I hope it's natural for this point in a 10 week strain. ...but that's beside the point.)

I notice that there's no mention of Micro anywhere in the formula you are discussing/using. There isn't much N in CM+, so what are you doing for N and all the trace stuff you get in Micro?

I've never used a zyme product on these plants. They're in coco and are watered until run-off twice per day. With roughly three weeks left, would a zyme product be of benefit? Would it help to flush with it? Could I flush with H2O2 instead and, if so, how much H2O2 does one use?

PC :smokin:

[MVP]

I am using Liquid Karma for my Micro and Zone by Dutch Masters for my root conditioner... is that a zyme?

[Weedhound]

I'm pretty sure Micro is made by GH.....PC can you post a link to the product and I can check and see.... I do know Latewood's formula is for 3 part GH nutes, not the Botanicare which is pretty much an all in one product (except for your Calcium, Magnesium, etc which is all in your Cal Mag.....and all your cool trace minerals too) That's why I'm strongly suspecting that with RO water if MVP uses CalMAg his problems will disappear (hint hint )

The two minds I try to follow the most are my hydro guy and Rhizome. Interestingly, they have opposite views on the use of CalMAg during bloom. My hydro guy likes CM for the entire grow (which is the way I do it and always have) and Rhizome.....reading from the MAKERS of the product (Botanicare) says that CalMAg should be dropped completely from your plants menu during late flowering (I have never done this.)
As a compromise I ended up using a higher amount of CalMAg than Botanicare says and not as much as my hydro guy recommends BUT I still use it ALL THE WAY through my grow until flush time.

MVP I'm not familiar with the DutchMaster root conditioner. Do you have a link I can look at?

[Weedhound]

One last thing PC.....too much nitrogen can inhibit flowering I am told....by a very good mind....Stinky. I think that's why Botanicare recommends no CalMAg later on in blooming. But Stink agrees there is not "too much" N in CalMag to cause a problem in flowering and I know my hydro guy agrees.

[PharmaCan]

Micro is part of a three-part nute. I use AN, but I think GH is almost the same. Anyhooo - here's some NPK numbers:

Grow - 2-1-6
Micro - 5-0-1
Bloom - 0-5-4

During veg you use equal parts of all three. During flower you drop the Grow completely. and use 2/1 - Bloom/Micro. Then I supplement with LK, CM+, Sweet & Molasses. I'm also adding Overdrive (1-3-4) for the next two weeks, then just Sweet & Molasses for the final week's flush.

I kept my base nutes (Micro & Bloom) constant and pushed up my supplements up until I got just a tad of tip burn then backed off on the supplements. I need to get a new ppm meter, but that's going to have to wait for awhile, so I'm just kinda flying by the seat of my pants here. Fortunately, with the coco, I mix a new batch of nutes every other day so it is easy to respond/adjust to what the plants seem to need.

..and now I'll shut up and quit jacking MVP's thread.

PC :smokin:

[Weedhound]

Ahhhh there is the confusion.

Pure Blend Pro Grow - gallon |

The Botanicare line is made as a one part or stand alone set of grow nutes....then in flowering you switch to the bloom one and they are complete for each part of your grow. The only thing missing in these "stand alone" nutes is the Calcium, magnesium, iron and trace minerals.....which are found in their third product Cal Mag.....made.....SPECIFICALLY for use with RO or distilled water....WHICH....oddly enough MVP is using mostly and even more oddly he seems to have a magnesium def.....go figure. :wtf:

So its a different brand and type of nutes PC. I love Botancare....just measuring one thing....no worries....and mostly organic....:thumbsup:

I shall now return this thread to its proper owner.

[PharmaCan]

M.V.P. - You might as well go get some CalMag - she's not going to give you a moment's peace until you do.

PC :smokin:

[Weedhound]

Heh heh......Allow the truth to be SHOUTED from the rooftops.....