The best thing I have seen so far is not a debate, but on CBS evening news Kaitti C. is asking every canidate the same question usually softballs but good questions none the less, then you get to see each canidate answer individually, it is easy as hell to tell which ones are lying or just giving lip service or are giving honest answers. BTW the biggest liears I have seen for both parties are Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton, the most honest, Ron Paul and Barrock Obama.