thanks much for the help. so I'll smoke one to that.
naw I ain't giving up on em yet.

so if I can tug on one of the bottem yellow fan leafs and it don't fall off.
then dose this mean that they do not needed to come off?

and 1 of my buddies says he has a thing that U stick in the soil and it can tell U the dampness of the soil or whatever.
should I say I want it.cuz he said he'd give it to me.

over and out.HC.