BirdGirl, how right you are....that code was excellent. i for one have sometime problems with a non comunicating man. i have no living mother, no close girlfriends, and no sister, so i do not talk about these suposed problems. i seeth sometimes, i ignore the small stuff and the large stuff just simmers, but i would never mention any of this to my brother or father. Amazing that the code is out there, yet i had never actually read it. Been married or with this man (not a communicator) for 14 years......and in my oddest-strangest-stonedest dreams i can not imagine my man writing any of the things i have read here from men. Go guys...if you feel you want another point of view to your "problems", this is as good a place as any to ask, IMHO.