cant agree with you more nixxxon about certain forms of utilitarianism being terrible. Think about every so called "just" war/ legal murder that has occurred in the last history of mankind that hasn't been justified by utilitarian principles. "I will kill this one man, because he will kill many more" "Dropping the A-Bomb will save thousands more American lives" The fact that any murder/war can be justified at all by anything only serves the purpose of murderers.