LSTTT: Low Stress Twisty Tie Training

[Treetops]

the more I read about this,the more I'm thinking about doing the same...

Thanks for the great pics as well..

Peace,
Treetops :thumbsup:

[MVP]

Ahhhh, the old plug in socket thingees... so do tell: Why are you gonna have to move the lights? I wanna know before I run out and build something similar...

[Opie Yutts]

If I want to fill in the whole screen I am going to need to move the lights, since they are sitting on the screen. Haven't decided yet. Getting antsy to flower, and I may just leave them.

[HateHeaven]

Is it possible to do a scrog with small plants? Or do you need to veg for a good month or two?

[Opie Yutts]

I suppose it would be possible, but in general you have to veg a little longer so that you can fill in the screen. You could have several plants and get the screen filled faster, or just one and take 3 or 4 months to get it filled in. I usually veg for 2 mo. with 6 or 8 plants, then put them in the flower section under the screen, tuck and tie nodes under the screen for a couple weeks, then flower.

[MVP]

Opie, SCROG question:
My Dominas are getting so damn thick in their main shoots that I cannot tie them down without serious, serious effort. Their fan leaves are gigantic and stuffing them back down thru the 2 in x 2 in screen is causing a few of their fans to break (not the whole leaf, just a finger or two here and there). I was planning to wait until approx 1/8 or so to flip them into flower but I can't tell how I will be able to keep an even canopy if I do.

Maybe you can help me with some ideas. As for the Hijack... Here are some pics to make up for that. Can I borrow your winch?

Happy New Year!

MVP
:i feel stupid: :icon401: imp: :lol5:

[Opie Yutts]

I can't tell how to keep an even canopy either. I am getting a little better each time I think, but it is very difficult to judge when to do a lot of things in a scrog. It's an art that can only be learned through experience. Then just when you think you got it down, you try another variety and everything's all different again.

All I can tell you is what I go for on average. When the screen is about 2/3 full of bud sites, I go to flower. I keep tucking and occasionally tying. Not only do I consider how much space is left on the screen, but also of the space that is already taken up with growth, how much of that is not yet filled in. (Awkward wording, sorry) Part of the 2/3 mark is in that space as well. I try to get an even field of buds, with the main colas more toward the outside and the small ones in the center. I have 2 x 3â?� openings, and Iâ??m hoping I can get 2 or 3, but at least one bud coming up through each hole. For your 2â?� openings I would probably want 2 colas coming up through each. After 2 or 3 weeks of flowering, (man flowering is one word you can really type fast) or when some good flowers start showing up, I let the buds come up through the screen. Ultimately you want a perfect, tightly spaced carpet, or forest of little Christmas trees. Please let me know when you get a perfect one, and then you should probably right a book about how to do it. I would buy it or download it for free. Did I say that out loud?

I've discovered that scrogging is a lot like sailing. When I'm on my sail board zipping between anchored boats, I don't always end up going around the exact boat that I was originally planning to. You must compromise and do what the wind wants you to. If you work with it instead of trying to do exactly what you want, you will reach your destination much quicker. Destination in our case is of course high yield. Any kind of order I try to achieve usually ends up being a free-for-all anyway. I usually change my mind several times about where plants are going to go, or when I plan to flower, orâ?¦

Well I got some tucking and tying to do, then perhaps Iâ??ll send yesterdays pictures.

What was the question again? Oh, Yes you may borrow my winch. When do you want it?


2008??? What the hell?

[Opie Yutts]

Oh yeah.

And, weird. I just got done looking at very similar pictures of your grow, and then boom. There's some more. Thanks.

[MVP]

That winch will come in handy tying down the main shoots, which are as thick as a pencil, and damn near as tough!

[Opie Yutts]

And I say unto thee brethren, there was much rejoicing from the highest mountain tops to the valley floors in the land of Canaan. Yesterday was the ladies first full day of budding. The day before they got up at the normal time, but went to bed early. The first two pictures are yesterday and the second two are of a screen that's half tucked and tied, today. I could spend at least twice the time I do, tucking fan leaves down, exposing bud sites, getting rid of would be popcorn buds under the canopy, and arranging each stem more betterish. I've already decided not to try and get rid of everything that should go, and just end up with some popcorn buds. I hope it doesn't take to much energy away from the real buds. Oh well, I'm pretty sure I'll get at least a couple hits out of the grow.

I fear that I may have too many bud sites in a small area, especially at the front of the screen. At the back, the one in the middle took over that area, and I don't even know if any of the outside back two have any bud sites exposed. I was going to toss them since they looked like they were hibernating, but I didn't want to deal with the mess of roots, and untangling plants from the screen. I've been removing more fan leaves than I like to. It seems like every fan leave is shading a bud. I started tucking leaves today and decided that wasn't working, and ended up removing a bunch of em.