'OpieYutts' had a post awhile back, how to build a bubble-cloner ... I built one, and LOVE it .. it not only acts as a 'fiddle-free' cloner, it is outstanding for germinating seeds ... 7 days to root clones, and 2-3 days to start a seed, all 'no-touch' ... it uses RapidRooter plugs, whole setup cost me about $25 ... :thumbsup: