New setup looking for large yields

[PharmaCan]

Yeah, what does "..." mean anyway?

I dunno - but I've been puffing on some "early" Widow and it pretty much signified my state of mind at the time. LOL

PC :stoned:

[Opie Yutts]

Didn't he say an 8x4 space? 2200 watts in a 4x4 space would probably be a different story (and overkill/inefficient).

My bad, sorry for the confusion. It was 8x4. So I guess take whatever I said and divide that in half. I know it is 100% my fault, but in my defense I offer a stoney minds rendition of this from PharmaCan:

You would be much better off with two 1,000 watt lights. A 4'x4' footprint is kinda big for a 600 watt. You would also be better with reflectors instead of cool tubes - you'll get better light distribution

(WELL PERHAPS I SKIMMED A LITTLE TOO, CAN'T REMEMBER.)

PharmaCan, I also am wondering if you and I are talking about the same reflector for the cool tube. Are you talking about the one that comes with the cool tube, or one that you can buy as an accessory, that is bigger and more realistic? I only grow in a 3x3 space, but my plants never seem to show a need for more light, and I use a cool tube. I don't use the aftermarket reflector though. My tube is encased in a thing that vents the tube and supplies air flow for the plants, as it is reflecting light, since it is white.

[yiGity]

The room i have to use is approx 25x12 square room i have about 5 g's for the setup and everything else needed

[stinkyattic]

I'll say again... you want large yields, go for a strain that is well-suited to a sea of green and a proven commercial producer. You're looking for minimal stretch as part of this package. I personally consider hazes to be headstash lines. That's just my opinion... that indica structure is so easy to deal with in a small commercial grow.

[Opie Yutts]

Well said.

[Opie Yutts]

I would use sog or scrog and have x2 1000W MH and x3 1000W HPS. About x6 23W CFL for the mother and clone section. Your money will be about gone after those lights and the ventilation required, so I would stick with some DIY DWC set up for the grow method. And since the VP is such a VIP, perhaps it would be best if we kept it on the QT, or we could all end up MIA and be put on KP.

[yiGity]

I would use sog or scrog and have x2 1000W MH and x3 1000W HPS. About x6 23W CFL for the mother and clone section. Your money will be about gone after those lights and the ventilation required, so I would stick with some DIY DWC set up for the grow method. And since the VP is such a VIP, perhaps it would be best if we kept it on the QT, or we could all end up MIA and be put on KP.

Yeah thats what i was thinking with the SOG. A couple questions what is DIY DWC, VP, QT, KP? Im leaning towards this hydro system
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Are the standard 2 gallon pots that come with these too small for the size plants im aiming at?

[Opie Yutts]

1. A couple questions what is DIY DWC, VP, QT, KP?

2. Im leaning towards this hydro system
Texas Hydroponics :: Hydroponics :: Hydroponic Systems :: Bucket Systems :: Ebb & Gro Hydro System Complete

3. Are the standard 2 gallon pots that come with these too small for the size plants im aiming at?

1. I am so sorry. There I go again confusing the hell out of people. I guess I just felt like I was on a roll, spitting out all those abbreviations, then that line from the movie "Good Morning Vietnam" suddenly popped into my head and I just kept writing.

SOG - Sea Of Green
SCROG - SCreen Of Green
x2, x3, x6 - Two each, three each, six each
W - Watt
MH - Metal Halide
HPS - High Pressure Sodium
CFL - Compact Fluorescent Lighting
DIY - Do It Yourself
DWC - Deep Water Culture
VP - Vice President
VIP - Very Important Person
QT - Quiet Time
MIA - Missing In Action
KP - Kitchen Patrol

Except for the dumb ones, these and many more can be found in this sticky:

http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...hing-mean.html

I highly recommend those unfamiliar with the lingo take a look.

2. That should do the trick. I like the way you can expand it to suit your needs and available space, and it can have a footprint that is an irregular shape. With that system you can have a lot of "roots in air" time, which is really good. Keep in mind that you need to be able to move either the plants or the lights if you do SOG. Also don't forget that the flowering section will need to be light-proof, or at least away from the veg sections' lighting schedule. I think it's fairly easy to unfasten those buckets and move them. I think you could raise the pump a couple inches, then drain the lines by undoing the last one in each line.

3. I think 2 gallon pots are perfect for what you are trying to do. Unless you are going to veg for an abnormally long time (you usually do just the opposite in SOG), the buckets will provide plenty of room for the roots of 1 plant.

[yiGity]

Opie - For sure man i appreciate it, i want to know exactly what im about to do before i start building my setup. I have read a couple books and they all boast SOG for best overall efficency, to me though it looks like its going to take a while to get it fully running in the cycles i have read with every 2-3 weeks a different batch is being moved from veg to flow... I'm going to be starting from seed so i'm thinking about growing some trees before i can get the whole SOG operational with clones, etc.. Thanks for the info

[bud luv]

The room i have to use is approx 25x12 square room i have about 5 g's for the setup and everything else needed

What does "25x12 square" mean? That sounds like more of a rectangle to me

Anyways it sounds like you're going to want several lights which means the first thing you need to think about is your electrical source. For all you know all the outlets in the room might be on the same 15 amp breaker, which could mean you need to make some electrical mods (240v conversion) or find a way to to get some heavy duty extension cords going from outlets on different breakers.