Opie Yutts I need your help friend

[GrowMe]

Yeah i read some of your posts about that..i think for now i'm going to spend my money on some other stuff first..i figured you'd seen the cooler or something similar before but thought id ask..even tho you have to keep refilling the ice, its a quick and pretty cheap fix as long as you can do it a couple times a day when 12/12 lighting is in effect..

As far as the cab temp what do you think is optimum? you think 68 is too low or they like that at night?

Thanks again

[GodBud]

Damn bros going high tech!

I am beginning to take on the mentality to let the plants do the talkin. If the ambient temps feel good to me then I am sure they feel fine with the plant. Its starting to get cold where I live so I put a small heater in the grow area thats set to a thermostat. But as far as temp changes from lights on and lights off they cant be that drastic cuz my plant is looking really good. :thumbsup:

Peace

[GrowMe]

Thanks Godbud..Post an updated pic if you can..i have one of four that is really starting to take off..Fingers crossed its a lady.

[GrowMe]

Also what do you set the thermo at on your heater? Thought they liked it being cool/cold at night.. Or is that only when they are budding? Not at all?

THanks

[GrowMe]

Yet another question about lighting.

Is it better to have a bigger bulb (bigger in actual size) than multiple smaller bulbs..Even tho with 4 - 40 watt bulbs i will have more watts than the 1 - 100 watt bulb..(13" long)..Do you think the big bulb gives off more energy or light somehow? Or covers more space?

Thanks

[Opie Yutts]

No, I think watts are watts whether they are from the big bulb or several smaller ones. More watts is better, more lumens is even better, and more radiant flux is the best, since that is the real light and not what we see. If you really want to impress people buy something to measure radiant flux, not lumens, and there can be no doubt to the answer to your question. Most people are wrong about the true way to measure the light. Lumens are only what humans can see. There's lots of other light, and plants see some of it.

It's whatever fits your space the best. I think several smaller ones are most often better because you can position them better to cover more areas, and get them close to the plants in more places.

And I thought I answered this already, but maybe not. The best temp. IMO is 82. Any higher and you will not be sure the leaf temps are less than 80 which is important. As for the nighttime, you don't want a drop of more than 15 degrees, 10 would be better.

[GrowMe]

Sorry if i asked the same question twice..i may have missed your answer..

Anyway i'm really having a hard time deciding what to do for the flowering cycle as far as lights go..especially since i'm going to go to a nice 1000 watt system in the upcoming months..I want to spend as little as possible but not so little that i get shitty results. I could get the smaller 40 watt bulbs and place them accordingly like you said and end up with about 212 watts all together..(160 from the warm bulbs and 52 from the veg bulbs) Or i could get the bulb below and add some of hte bulbs i have now.. What you think?

MaxLite 35872-ML SKO200EAWW 200W 120V 8U Tube E39 Mogul Base 2700K Warm White 10,000 Hour HighMax HPF Compact Fluorescent Lamp (CFL) - 850W Incandescent Equivalent - High and Low Bays, Gymnasiums, Wall Packs, Warehouses, Churches

I'd end up with 200 watts warm bulb and up to as much as 104 watts from the 4 veg bulbs i have...Is it worth is for the price? I could use this with my 1000 watt system next year..just to add a couple hundred watts..Better idea?

Another question - Is that correct about this light lasting 10,000 hours? If thats true and my stoner calculations are correct, then that light will last me approximatly 14 grows @ 12 hrs a day for 60 days... ????

What are your thoughts? and are these hard to keep temps down? or they good like most cfls? Thanks so much guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup: :smokin:

[Opie Yutts]

I've not used those monster bulbs, so I'm not sure how much heat they give off. It will be an issue, but probably not a huge issue. I imagine you could rig a small computer fan next to it and that would take care of the heat issue. Just don't blow the heat down on your plants.

You know the basics about the kind of lights required, and your calculations seem correct, you are just going to have to choose what you think would be best for your situation. If I knew I was going to do a much nicer set up next, I would try to save my money for that. Then again, as you said you could use the bulbs you buy now, in your next set up. It may be smart to buy a little more light at this point and figure the new ones into your next design.

I don't know if I'm helping, sorry, a little buzzed.

[GrowMe]

You're def helping..id like as much feedback as possible..just trying to weigh out our options..like i said i wanna save my money for bigger and better htings in the near future but don't want to sacrifice yield for a few extra bucks..

With that being said i think we are going to go with the 200 watt CFL and what do you say? 2, 3, or 4 of the 5500k - 26 w cfls???? how many of those to go with the monster CFL??? I don't want to get too much blue spectrum if thats something i should worry bout? letmeknow...thanks os much

[GodBud]

I know you guys shifted over the light topic just thought I would slap a pic up and get your opinion on a question. The plant is doing great got it up to 1250 ppms all other specs are normal as should be. But I am a little concerned at the growth rate. seems a little slow for 31sh days. What do you think?

Peace