My First ScrOG - Young Girls in Bondage

[Opie Yutts]

Hey PC, really cool to see you doing a scrog setup. 18 sq ft of budding white widow. Ain't it a beautiful mouthwatering sight? As you may or may not be aware, I am a huge fan of the scrog method. Not only do you get to harvest about every two months, but the yields are higher since using the screens maximizes the space you have and the shape of the light intensity (with HID and a stadium screen).

Man, just think what that is going to look like in 6 weeks. Just think how it will look when you can do it without any problems. Hey wait, does that ever happen?

I can't even see the screen. Have the colas just grown so high that it's not visible?

I'm not trying to be a big shot or hijack your thread, but perhaps people might be interested in seeing an example of a stadium scrog. Here's an older grow of mine: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...questions.html

PC, (or anyone for that matter) please be sure to share when you get aspects of scrog figured out. It's not easy to time everything just perfectly so that you get maximum screen coverage, without having to end up chopping a few to make room. It's also not easy trying to decide where to place all the branches and the main bud. Any attempt at doing this in an organized fashion usually ends up in a free-for-all anyway. Let me know, and I'll share as well, if any profound inspiration hits me in the face.

[PharmaCan]

You mention tying the branches down--is there a certain technique to doing so?

I'm not sure what you mean by this question. The method of tying the branches is just bend them over and tie them down with a twist tie. The technique is to try to get the foliage to cover your entire screen. If this doesn't answer your question, feel free to ask more specific questions. :thumbsup:

Opie - Thanks for stopping by!

Yeah, the buds are just so thick that you can't see the screen. There's also quite a bit of foliage that's tied down that's blocking the view.

The guy at the hydro shop said he used to do a lot of scrogging and that he used two screens. Same process of tying all the branches as best you can, then, when the buds start to rise, directing each bud through a hole in the upper screen. I'm going to try two screens on my next grow. Just looking at the way the plants are growing, I'm guessing that the second screen helps hold down the foliage that is competing for the light. I spend a lot of time tucking fan leaves to expose buds. I think the second screen eliminates that chore, but I'm not really sure.

PC :smokin:

[iniganja]

Pharm--Hmmm...you have any pictures of the branches on the screen?

[PharmaCan]

Pharm--Hmmm...you have any pictures of the branches on the screen?

I didn't take any pics as I was doing the initial tying, or as it was filling in, if that's what you mean.

I can try to take a pic from underneath, but I don't know if you'll be able to see much. I'll get that up in the morning.

PC :smokin:

[Opie Yutts]

PC, I've never heard of this technique where you put two screens in the flower area. It's common to have a "training screen" in the veg chamber, just to keep the plants from growing too far from the way you'll need them to be. But it's not necessary and I've never used one, since I can usually get my screen down over my plants after I move them into the bud section. Occasionally I'll snap a banch, sometimes even clean off, but a little masking tape takes care of that real well.

I guess I'm a little confused. I'm just not seeing the need for a 2nd screen. You said, Same process of tying all the branches as best you can, then, when the buds start to rise, directing each bud through a hole in the upper screen. Well this is exactly what I do with my one screen. I tie all the branches for awhile, then I let the buds rise through holes in the screen. What are you doing differently than I am? You said, the second screen helps hold down the foliage that is competing for the light. I assume you mean the upper screen. Either way, I don't see what the bottom screen is for. My one screen holds down the foliage, and it positions buds at certain holes to rise through. What am I missing here?

[PharmaCan]

Opie - I'm just guessing at what the purpose of the upper screen is. I really don't know for sure.

Most of my veg foliage was under the screen. The foliage from the 12/12 stretch is on top, tied down.

Anyhoo, the hydro guy swears by the two screen process, so I'll try it once. But, when I do, I think I'll drag his butt over here to help me set it up 'cuz I too am confused about the process.

PC :smokin:

[xcrispi]

Looks sweet P/C,
3 ft x 6 ft , 4 plants . I'm real curious how this is gonna yield for you / if it's worth the 2.5 mos. veg. time ?

Does there seem to be as much wood growing under the screen as there would be w/ just topping them n letting them grow natural ?

Is this indeed the cabinet we saw a lil while back roughed in w/o doors ? 2-600W in cooltubes ? Can you pop a cpl. pics of the cabinet itself too , it looked sweet in the makings , like O.C.D Sweet , I was impressed ! :thumbsup:

Bg hydro. let me down too man , fukd me around for 3 bloody mos. over 12.00 of calibration sol. LOL . I'll never be back .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[rhizome]

Opie - I'm just guessing at what the purpose of the upper screen is. I really don't know for sure.

Keeps stuff from falling over- you'll have weight supported at awkward angles, and as they fill in they'll want to lay down onto the screen.

[PharmaCan]

Keeps stuff from falling over- you'll have weight supported at awkward angles, and as they fill in they'll want to lay down onto the screen.

Dude, you are like the Lone Ranger of information.:thumbsup:

Looks sweet P/C,
3 ft x 6 ft , 4 plants . I'm real curious how this is gonna yield for you / if it's worth the 2.5 mos. veg. time ?

Does there seem to be as much wood growing under the screen as there would be w/ just topping them n letting them grow natural ?

Is this indeed the cabinet we saw a lil while back roughed in w/o doors ? 2-600W in cooltubes ? Can you pop a cpl. pics of the cabinet itself too , it looked sweet in the makings , like O.C.D Sweet , I was impressed ! :thumbsup:

Bg hydro. let me down too man , fukd me around for 3 bloody mos. over 12.00 of calibration sol. LOL . I'll never be back .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

Here's a few cabinet pics for you, Crispi. If I stumble across the link to thread with all the good cab construction pics, I'll post it. Lately I've been getting away from fixed cabs and more into free standing structures. That way, if I decide to move I can move the cabs and barely skip a beat in my op.

There is a lot of wood on these plants. I'll post a stem pic below and you can get an idea. The stem in the pic is about 1 1/2" diameter.

I didn't have to veg for 2.5 months - as it turned out, I did, but that was only because of BG Hydro. I had to top the plants twice during that period, just to keep some semblance of sanity.

This is my Christmas Widow. ...maybe some of it will make its way back to the East coast in time for the holidays - ya never know.:jointsmile:

PC :smokin:

[PharmaCan]

Here are a few more pics with the hps's off. If you look at the pic of the undergrowth, it's pretty thick. There are a whole lot of buds in there, which will just be popcorn buds, but it's obvious that with practice and improved technique there is the potential for a lot better yield.

BTW - The def you see was started with clogged sprinkler heads and no water for a day or two (?). I flushed and adjusted my nutes and the color is slowly returning to the leaves. Today is day one of week seven - with a 10-11 week strain. I'm using Latewood's recipe so today I'm switching to the power flowering nutes. With 4-5 weeks left, those buds should bulk up quite nicely.

PC :smokin: