Quote Originally Posted by Krogith
I have had a hard time understanding this fact also in the past but we have to understand that. Perfection would have to mean that you Are fullly Capable of makeing the right decision. It done not mean you have to. Adam knew God and knew God gave everything good and did everything good for him. He Choose to follow his wife who was deceived.
By this definition of perfect, then nearly everyone on the planet is perfect. by this definition, perfection is is a man that could give his excess money to someone who needs it more, but chooses not to. Perfection is a man that can choose not to murder, but does so anyways.

If that's the expectation you have for perfection, then saying that Jesus was a perfect human being doesn't really say much at all.

Quote Originally Posted by Krogith
In Hebrew terms the word perfection draws from such verbs as sha-lam (come to completion) Ta-mam (be Completed) So he was fully able or completed and was able to follow God's laws perfectly.
then shouldn't english bibles be translated accordingly?

Everything else you've written is just explaining perfection as a very low bar that nearly anyone could meet.

I'm also still waiting to hear the logic of why God would set up the rules that He couldn't forgive Adam, waited some thousands of years for his "perfect" son to come along and sacrifice himself in order for mankind to be able to live in eternal happiness.
Hardcore Newbie Reviewed by Hardcore Newbie on . Perceived roundaboutness in the Bible I'm posting a reply in a new thread to keep the other one on track. How can a perfect being act in a way to make itself imperfect? Wouldn't a perfect being refrain from any action that would cause imperfection, by the nature of the word "perfect" itself? Please reply with something about free will. If this is true, and sin is inherited, does this mean we are held accountable, in God's eyes, for every sin of our forefathers? Rating: 5