Quote Originally Posted by Krogith
Adam was perfect and died from Sin
You still haven't shown how a perfect being can make imperfect choices and decisions. The presence of free will does not change anything, the presence of free will doens't mean that you must choose the imperfect path, it just means that a choice is there, and a perfect being will choose the best choice, every time.

You can not state Adam to be perfect without addressing this glaring flaw.

Quote Originally Posted by Krogith
, he then was father to the World. Only a perfect Man who never Sined could take his place to restore Mankinds ablity to draw close to God and Recive the Gift Adam and Eve were supost to have, Everlasting life on a perfect earth.
I'm not asking for the story, I know the story, I'm still asking for *why* God needed Jesus to forgive us, you and me. Why can't he just say "Adam effed up, but that shouldn't reflect badly on you, it's not your fault that Adam disobeyed".

Please stop explaining the story and explain the logic behind it.

I'm not asking for the purpose of Jesus, I'm asking for the rationality behind God choosing to forgive us in such a convoluted manner.

Quote Originally Posted by Krogith
There is alot more to it that o dang dude you messed up ok well don't do it anymore.
I generally believe in second chances myself, and for the simple act of someone disobeying me, my idea of forgiveness wouldn't be a conditional acceptance of Jesus. My idea would be to talk rationally about why certain things are wrong. I guess I'm just rational like that.
Hardcore Newbie Reviewed by Hardcore Newbie on . Perceived roundaboutness in the Bible I'm posting a reply in a new thread to keep the other one on track. How can a perfect being act in a way to make itself imperfect? Wouldn't a perfect being refrain from any action that would cause imperfection, by the nature of the word "perfect" itself? Please reply with something about free will. If this is true, and sin is inherited, does this mean we are held accountable, in God's eyes, for every sin of our forefathers? Rating: 5