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11-09-2007, 08:27 AM #15
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Perceived roundaboutness in the Bible
You still haven't shown how a perfect being can make imperfect choices and decisions. The presence of free will does not change anything, the presence of free will doens't mean that you must choose the imperfect path, it just means that a choice is there, and a perfect being will choose the best choice, every time.
Originally Posted by Krogith
You can not state Adam to be perfect without addressing this glaring flaw.
I'm not asking for the story, I know the story, I'm still asking for *why* God needed Jesus to forgive us, you and me. Why can't he just say "Adam effed up, but that shouldn't reflect badly on you, it's not your fault that Adam disobeyed".
Originally Posted by Krogith
Please stop explaining the story and explain the logic behind it.
I'm not asking for the purpose of Jesus, I'm asking for the rationality behind God choosing to forgive us in such a convoluted manner.
I generally believe in second chances myself, and for the simple act of someone disobeying me, my idea of forgiveness wouldn't be a conditional acceptance of Jesus. My idea would be to talk rationally about why certain things are wrong. I guess I'm just rational like that.
Originally Posted by Krogith
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