def go with the roaches. just dont go over board with the amount of cardbaord and the length of the roach. i noticed that they hit best when you roll them so that the cardboard doesnt overlap eachother more than once, i also just bought some hemp papers from the local gas station and all i have to say is wow. Their so much easier to roll, their wider so you can put more bud in and they burn so much slower and consistent. i went with the ezwider hemps