Does using a bong waste weed?`

[Dren]

Okay, do bongs waste weed?

No...

Have you ever smoked a bong?

They get you HIGH

Therefore, whatever thc is 'lost' is SO miniscule it's absurd to imply that bongs are ineffective and wasteful. I don't give a fuck what NORML says, I know what I say, I know what my bong says. Joints waste more then anything. They need more weed to make a joint... The joint is constantly burning, thus you are losing thc. Sideburns... A bong takes less weed so it's not as wasteful as a joint. Perhaps a pipe is more efficient then all, HOWEVER, it's harsh as hell and not worth it, you wouldn't get that much higher from a pipe then a bong. If you smoke 0.3 in a pipe and 0.3 in a bong, it's the same.

Corner the bong bowl like you should be doing anyway and you'll get at least triple the greens in my experience. Not only that but I've only ever smoked out of one pipe that was able to get me more high on a hit for hit comparison than a majority of bongs. One dub-bub a buddy has is the only non-bong I've seen that can match the smoke, clarity, and high of a glass-on-glass diffuser, bub-bowl, ice catching bong (double+ perc will increase the smoothness and amount of smoke you can inhale, thus getting you higher).

I don't care what studies were done where, look at the fucking air when you smoke a J, blunt, bong, pipe, etc... unless the bong/pipe's rolling hard and the next person either doesn't put it out for a second or hit it immediately, you'll see the most wasted smoke coming off a j or blunt because, like a cig, it's continuously burning.

[lildicedan]

with a bong you can start and stop the flame with a j you cant it keeps burning, and when you leave it in the air if theres wind around it actually makes the joint burn as if your toking it, i know that cos i was smoking one yesterday and it happened and then i was like 'quick smoke it before it all finishes'

[lildicedan]

one thing good about normal joints is that, it is quite fun as it gives you something to do and uses up time and you can just like commune with a jay in your hand with a bong its kwik hits and the weed is finished fast so you cant really chill out cos you get stoned so fast

[thathippiekid]

Well, as counter-intuitive as it seems I can almost believe it. One thing to consider is the even though some of the joint burns away as you smoke it, you get the extra thc that resonates on the inside of the paper when your hitting it. Unlike on a pipe, where you'd have to scrape it off when it's old and nasty. Big glass on glass bowls usually hold at least a penners worth of weed..

Also I think the measurement of "how high" you are is totally subjective. All of our minds have the ability to produce a placebo effect, so maybe we just think we're getting higher when we're hitting big ass bongs?

[jonlem88]

Here is the thing, waste is a relative term. Some people mean waste as in, to have a good joint you have to have at least a gram, preferably 1.5-2 grams. To have a 4 hits from the bong, only requires say .5-.75. See 1 joint gets more than one person high, so you have to take that into account. The norml studies are just measuring which is the least wasteful in terms of how much thc is lost from one hit. So the thing is neither are a wasteful use of weed. They are both just different in there own ways. Now what your friend was saying is that he wants to conserve weed, and bongs use up a lot of weed at one time, and it is harder to control the hit going into your lungs. The bubbler on the other hand makes it very easy to control how fast and how much of the weed burns, you can still pack a full bowl but corner it, easy put it out, take hits when you want. I know you can do the exact same for a bong, but the thing is you are forced to take bigger hits and you may not even need the entire first hit to get high. My entire point is that waste weed is not an absolute term. It very a ton for different people. I like joints a lot(though not good at rolling them yet they are my favorite kind. So I can say I think all other forms of smoking are wasting weed but that is just not true.) I do think hat using a bowl/mini bubbler or the best way to make your stash last longer and get more people high though.

[jonlem88]

On a side note, this is the end all argument statement, the only way to in fact waste weed, is to not get it into your system in some form or fashion whether, its a bong, bowl, bubbler, joint, blunt, knife hit, vaporizer, steamroller, hookah, gravity bong, or just easting it.

[mogencho]

uh wat about gravity bongs? those keep my weed going for a looong time, but not as fun as a bong unless u pack bowls for snappin

[ZAD515]

This thread again? Anyways, here's a quote from Marijuana and the Brain, Part II: The Tolerance Factor:

"Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke."

So apparently there have been other studies that support the glorious bong.

[NinjaToke]

i havent read any of the other post but heres my story... recently due to my brother being around and i dont wanna be a bad influence (hes suppose to be the good kid in the family) i didnt wanna carry a bong around hte house... so i started smoking joints and blunts occasionally a pipe... but now that hes gone again ive been doing some mean bong rips and thats when i noticed nothing gets me high like a bong... put some ice in there you can take even bigger rips...

so to me if losing a bit of thc in the water and the sides of the bong is a loss im willing to take just because its a better quality hit to me and just takes me to a different level

[LIP]

Anyone who thinks joints waste weed cant roll joints. My joints dont waste ANY weed - so why do yours?