Gosh, I guess I will ask one more, I have been pussyfooting with nut and watering, so not sure what to do with a revegging plant, what ppm and watering schedule. Remember I am in those clay balls only, ebb and flow, and they dry out pretty fast. I put a little regular medium in two of them as an exeriement, just around the roots when starting them, and they are a little bigger, maybe they curled less, and I dont remember actually that they leaf tip and fringe burned....does the clay only make them run pretty dry? Thanks for any help...