The great gun-control debate

[wickerbill]

I voted other, I'll explain, there probably more guns in this country than people, you will never confiscate all of them, the overwhelming majority of gun owners never break the law or ever use a gun against another human being or animal for that matter, most people own a gun for home protection, hunting, shooting sports, or are collectors. Although I no longer hunt, we are part of the eco-system, predators if you will and serve to thin the population of animals which otherwise mother nature will thin in a much more cruel way than a well aimed shot. People that do have guns should be educated on safety, how the weapon works, what it is capable of, etc. This is not to say everyone should be allowed gun ownership, but the huge number of gun owners are responsible law abiding citizens. One of Hitler's tactics was to outlaw personal gun ownership. I will state that I used my GI Bill to go to gunsmithing school so maybe I am biased.

[psychocat]

Exactly, it is illegal to have firearms on airplanes. However, if the crew on the airlines were armed in the rare event of a hijacking, they could have defended themselves, as well as their hijackers targets. 9/11 could have been prevented if the crew was allowed to have a system of self defense..

Firing a gun in a pressurised plane would be insanity , hit a window or put a hole in the fuselage and the plane is going down. You also have the problem of a hijacker relieving a member of the crew of thier firearm and using it against them.

I just want to add that the reason why our right to bear arms is so important is that it keeps the government from getting to big and controlling. When every citizen is armed, the government fears the people, and that is the way it was meant to be, not the people afraid of the government.

If you believe that then you are very naive , your goverment does not fear you in the least and if there was an uprising you can bet your bottom dollar that they would stamp on it just like them there Yankees did when the south decided they wanted freedom from the north.

If guns weren't so freely available then perhaps the US would see less school massacres and accidental deaths.

More guns means it's easier for the retards to get hold of them.

[Herreic68]

Wow I have to say I am pretty impressed by the results of the poll so far. Long-barreled guns, handguns, and assault weapons should be allowed has a rather large lead. Donâ??t forget that in the US we are given this right not only to protect ourselves from criminals but also from government that becomes oppressive and tyrannical. I'm not saying that the US is those things just that our founders understood that one day it could be and it will be that citizens restore freedom.

[psychocat]

Wow I have to say I am pretty impressed by the results of the poll so far. Long-barreled guns, handguns, and assault weapons should be allowed has a rather large lead. Donâ??t forget that in the US we are given this right not only to protect ourselves from criminals but also from government that becomes oppressive and tyrannical. I'm not saying that the US is those things just that our founders understood that one day it could be and it will be that citizens restore freedom.

Like them citizens in 1861 you mean ?
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[MadSativa]

I love guns they are one of the best art forms.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

So what are you saying psychocat, that because the government is stronger, citizens shouldn't have any ability to fight back? Uprisings and government overthrows do happen in many countries, many times throughout history. Yet all of a sudden the constitution a minor priority in the US these days; and people wonder why things are going to hell.




As for airplanes, maybe the pilots could be armed with those shooting tazers.

[psychocat]

So what are you saying psychocat, that because the government is stronger, citizens shouldn't have any ability to fight back? Uprisings and government overthrows do happen in many countries, many times throughout history. Yet all of a sudden the constitution a minor priority in the US these days; and people wonder why things are going to hell.




As for airplanes, maybe the pilots could be armed with those shooting tazers.

That isn't what I said I was simply pointing out that the last time the American southern states tried forcing the goverment they achieved nothing except lots of dead Americans.
The US goverment would come down hard on anyone they even suspected of planning an uprising , a call to arms would be met with Apache attack choppers and other seriously kick arse weaponry.

[Cyclonite]

Im a firm believer in the second amendment, I have the right to protect myself however I choose from a quick reaction handgun I keep close by to a multi purpose S&W 500 that acts as a rifle handgun and shotgun (With a slug) at the same time with a convenient to carry 10" barrel:stoned:.....then again I also think I should be able to put claymores around the perimeter of my property.

Vote Ron Paul if you want to keep your right to carry....screw all them freedom hating bastards that think they know whats best for us.

Guns used in crimes aren't obtained legally in most cases...if someone wants to go on a rampage they can do it with a homemade zip gun....homemade pipe bombs knives scissors whatever, where there is a will there is a way. Education and responsible ownership is the key.

[LIP]

Pro Self Defense Posters

[wickerbill]

I've read a lot of posts that say assault weapons are weapons of war, which is true, however so were flintlocks, slingshots, rocks etc. any gun including BB guns can kill. Assault rifles are semi auto, to own a full auto AR, you have to have a class3 license which are expensive and difficult to get. A semi can be converted to auto but 1 it is illegal with a stiff penalty, 2 it can be done to any semi including sporting semis. Someone said it best, responsible ownership & education! I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I'm pretty damn tired of losing rights over some nut job or low life thug as the excuse.:wtf: