The great gun-control debate

[psychocat]

I would like someone to explain this to me:
Less guns = more crime
More guns = less crime
That seems to be the belief of some people.
The statistics prove that belief to be completely wrong wouldn't you say ?
More guns just seems to make it even easier for criminals to get hold of them.

[Iguana]

I would like someone to explain this to me:
Less guns = more crime
More guns = less crime
That seems to be the belief of some people.
The statistics prove that belief to be completely wrong wouldn't you say ?
More guns just seems to make it even easier for criminals to get hold of them.

Read the book "More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott and your questions will be answered.

[psychocat]

Read the book "More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott and your questions will be answered.

Unfortunately the actual crime figures show more guns just equals more violent crime.
A Time Line of Recent Worldwide School Shootings — Infoplease.com

[Mississippi Steve]

Unfortunately the actual crime figures show more guns just equals more violent crime.
A Time Line of Recent Worldwide School Shootings — Infoplease.com

So...let me ask this... if all of the legal, registered guns are confiscated, then what are you going to do about all of the illegal guns that are still on the streets?? How are you going to tell folks that they family heirlooms that have been passed down for generations from the war of 1812, the civil war, etc are going to be taken away just because you say so???

[DropDeadFred]

I'm keeping my guns even if the gov't sayes they're illegal because my guns are the guarantee my rights as an American Citizen. Gov't can say i don't have those rights. Well come down here and try me.
I really don't want to live in the dorm rooms at college because you can't have any weapons. The reasoning behind this is that if no student has a gun no one gets shot. Well who is going to obey that rule students that want to protect themselves and others- YES Students that want to go on a rampage and need to kill lots of people- Probably NOt. All these shootings that have occurred at high school and college campuses could of been stopped before so many people died if someone anyone had had a gun. I feel safe where i go to school because I know that half the kids have rifles,shotguns,or pistols in their vehicle and I'd feel even more safe if they had them on person.

[Mississippi Steve]

better stock up on bullets... I buy mine by the case... if Hillary makes it into office, bullets are going to be a real scarce commodity

[Esoteric416]

[QUOTE=i find the idea of housewives wandering the supermarket aisles with uzis in their shopping carts perversely amusing.[/QUOTE]
Hillarious :thumbsup:

[Nailhead]

I would like someone to explain this to me:
Less guns = more crime
More guns = less crime
That seems to be the belief of some people.
The statistics prove that belief to be completely wrong wouldn't you say ?
More guns just seems to make it even easier for criminals to get hold of them.

You just have that a little confused. This is how it really goes:
less guns = more crime
more guns = less criminals
:thumbsup:

[Mr. Clandestine]

Here's an interesting little story about a good friend of mine:

My buddy lives in the outskirts of a VERY small town, in a little neighborhood out in the middle of nowhere. There are about 50 homes in this neighborhood. About a year ago, a lot of the homeowners in his neighborhood started moving out for various reasons. All at once, there were suddenly about 20 vacant houses scattered throughout the neighborhood. In less than THREE months, vandals broke into ALL 20 houses, and stripped all of the copper piping, wiring, and anything else that could be taken and sold for profit. The thieves were never caught, but it was suspected that they lived in the neighborhood.

Not long after, the thieves graduated from vandals to burglars and started coming into residents houses while they slept, stealing computers, stereo equipment, and the like. Months went by, they still were not caught. This was a nice quiet community, and most of the homeowners there didn't even own guns. But once their houses started getting broken into, many of them purchased small firearms for home protection. My friend took it upon himself to supply several homes in the neighborhood with cheap 9mm semi-automatic pistols that he got from a surplus dealer. I actually bought one from him, too... just to have a new toy to play with. They were Kel-Tec P-11s. Anyway, the whole neighborhood, minus a few houses, was now armed thanks to him. My buddy then began passing out fliers throughout the neighborhood indicating that the residents were now armed, and reiterated that our state recognized the "Castle Doctrine", because he was sure that the teenagers living in the subdivision had something to do with the break-ins. After those fliers were passed out, not one house has been broken into since.

In this instance, the action of firing a gun didn't play any part in criminal deterrence. Just knowing that these nice lil moms & pops were now packing heat was enough to frighten the criminals away. Just my thoughts on the subject.

Take care. :jointsmile:

[netdog]

I own many weapons.... none of which are assault weapons. They are all for either hunting, sport, or defense.

Gun control is being able to hit you target. Proficienacy is the key.

95% of the auto-pistols on the street are weapons of war, and as a rule, revolvers are not. I don't figure that John Q Public has a need for assult weapons or other weapons of war. Leave those for law enforcement and military.

FWIW, the target is from my 30-06 @ 200 yards and the bull only measures 1 inch

That's all well and good, but define an "assault weapon"...