smoke bubbler with no water

[jsn9333]

Don't be impressed. It's not my lab... it was procured by NORML and MAPS for the benefit of tokers everywhere.

Oooh a high tech lab... I'm really impressed now =/

Worst study EVER

jsn9333 Reviewed by jsn9333 on 11-05-2007. smoke bubbler with no water I usualy use my bubbler with no water because of my parents. Is that bad for the bubbler? Peace:hippy::stoned: Rating: 5

[jsn9333]

whats this then
even if the thc was not mixed into the water it would still be getting into your system.

That was a joke. I don't know who could drink that shit without throwing up... much less who would.

[Reefer Rogue]

Don't be impressed. It's not my lab... it was procured by NORML and MAPS for the benefit of tokers everywhere.

Do you work for NORML?

Have you ever smoked a bong?

That study proves nothing without an external reference providing clarity and backing. It was done many years ago.

[jsn9333]

Do you work for NORML?

Have you ever smoked a bong?

That study proves nothing without an external reference providing clarity and backing. It was done many years ago.

I do not work for NORML, but I respect their work. I used to smoke only out of a water bong; now I smoke out of a pipe (a fairly long one to let the smoke cool).

Again, this is the only study I have ever heard of that set out to scientifically measure the efficiency of a water bong compared to regular smoking when it comes to THC content and tar filtering. If you don't have any other studies showing this one is wrong, then I'm going to go with it (and my personal experience which is that a pipe gets me higher, faster).

Why would I assume sticky tar sticks to water but sticky cannabinoids don't? I don't care how old the study is... you're not showing me any studies newer or opposing this one.

[Reefer Rogue]

My point is, you're not getting any higher then I am by smoking a pipe instead of a bong. If you smoke 0.3 in a pipe or 0.3 in a bong, it's the same except the pipe is a lot more harsh. The water is proven to filter out carcinogens, unlike a pipe...

[Enemy of Real1ty]

Bongs ftw, gotta gree with reefer rogue, the amount of thc "lost" in a bong is so miniscule, that it really makes no difference, the study that was done, was done in a time when weed was a lot less potent, probably making it somewhat of a difference back then.

[jsn9333]

My point is, you're not getting any higher then I am by smoking a pipe instead of a bong. If you smoke 0.3 in a pipe or 0.3 in a bong, it's the same except the pipe is a lot more harsh. The water is proven to filter out carcinogens, unlike a pipe...

That's fine. I don't claim to be getting higher then you, and I don't care whether or not I get higher then you. All I care about is that I get higher faster smoking a pipe instead of a water bong. That's just me. And the only scientific study I know of showed that the water filtered out 30% more THC then tar. That's significant to me.

[420_24/7]

Bongs ftw, gotta gree with reefer rogue, the amount of thc "lost" in a bong is so miniscule, that it really makes no difference, the study that was done, was done in a time when weed was a lot less potent, probably making it somewhat of a difference back then.

the study was done just a few years ago
but they use low potency cannabis because there is a limit to the amount of thc that it can legally contain when being tested.

[Mex]

You are way too sketch. I used to have a bong and I would use it at night in my room with my parents home, and after I was done I would just pour the water into a water bottle and hide the water bottle behind a drawer in my dresser. I would keep using new bottles until I had the chance to dump them one day. It's pretty simple really, but it may be easier for me because I have a fridge in my room so I always have bottles laying around my room. Get a funnel if its messy or something.

[420_24/7]

I must ask if you read the entire study,
i didnt, i only read the parts about water filtration because thats what concerned me, i saw that it may filter more thc than tar, but even so that could be because it filter barely any tar and barely any thc.

But this is what caught my interest

Nonetheless, it is still premature to judge that waterpipes are actually unhealthful, since they may filter out other, non-solid smoke toxins occurring in the gas phase of the smoke, which was not analyzed in the study. Noxious gases known to occur in marijuana smoke include hydrogen cyanide, which incapacitates the lung's defensive cilia; volatile phenols, which contribute to the harshness of the taste; aldehydes, which promote cancer; and carbon monoxide, a known risk factor in heart disease. Previous studies indicate that water filtration may be quite effective in absorbing some of these [Nicholas Cozzi, Effects of Water Filtration on Marijuana Smoke: A Literature Review, MAPS Newsletter, Vol. IV #2, 1993]. If so, waterpipes might still turn out to have net health benefits.

This would mean that with a bong you are preventing many of these harmful chemicals from entering your body, and with a pipe you still get the same if not more tar.