the nature of negativity

[RESiNATE]

When I was younger, I didn't really understand about depression - I just thought that it was as much about attention seeking, as it was about emotional content.
Yet, during the past 4 years, or so, I have come to understand more about depression and how it controls a person's life.

I am depressed at the moment - so fucking depressed...

It's not always as simple as 'picking yourself up and dusting yourself off', sometimes it goes far and beyond that simplicity. It can turn you into an entirely different person to how you used to be - after a while, one forgets how one used to be...

It eats away at you, steadily destroying the essence of your character - and it becomes very difficult to claw your way back out of the hole.
Sure, you can look around and see people in a far worse senario than yours - but are we to take pleasure from that? Seems rather heartless to me, and yet, that's what people will say...

Some people feel honour-bound to struggle on with life - maybe they've got kids, and they use them as an anchor.

Depression is a personal thing - it affects people in different ways.

We live in a time where depression affects so many people that it is almost epidemic - and yet, few people think to ask themselves why...they'd rather pump the sufferer full of prozac and send them on their way.

[Flaegrek]

Well you're right. if you have read books, such as The Celestine prophecy, and Clearing for the Millenium, you will see it shows to be aware of yourself frist. Become a better person before society as a whole can make a leap, more effecient and "aware" as a whole. Some books I'm reading are deep, and very powerful in what they have to tell. As a society, and as humans we're becoming more aware.

Those feelings you get when you think you recognize someone, from somewhere, but haven't seen them at all until today. Or, seeing a place or area that looks really familiar, but you can't put your finger on it. These random occurences are connected to our lives, the people you will meet and become friends with. All connected. Everything occurs for a reason, and as a society we will be aware of these happeneings, we already are.

You could take it back in time to 900, before the Rennaissance, explorers set out to explore this barren land of ours, never to return. People started to question their location(s), seeing people never to return, more people started to get scared of the unknown. Preoccupations started to occur, more industrialization over time, people's minds started to drift away from their true sight. It is only now, before and during the second Millenium we will see people become more aware, and eventually with the happenings the world is experiencing now, as a whole we are expected to become aware, for the most part. Then onto a whole new phase of living. It's really interesting. Start with yourself, start with your own flaws, start being nice and polite to everyone, stop and say hello and ask how their day went. It's those small things that keep us going. People will see that, realize, and they too will start. We just need to get our energy connected, and aware. I'm sure I can explain the "energy" another time, but it is a main part of our lives.

[Buck268]

When I was younger, I didn't really understand about depression - I just thought that it was as much about attention seeking, as it was about emotional content.
Yet, during the past 4 years, or so, I have come to understand more about depression and how it controls a person's life.

I am depressed at the moment - so fucking depressed...

It's not always as simple as 'picking yourself up and dusting yourself off', sometimes it goes far and beyond that simplicity. It can turn you into an entirely different person to how you used to be - after a while, one forgets how one used to be...

It eats away at you, steadily destroying the essence of your character - and it becomes very difficult to claw your way back out of the hole.
Sure, you can look around and see people in a far worse senario than yours - but are we to take pleasure from that? Seems rather heartless to me, and yet, that's what people will say...

Some people feel honour-bound to struggle on with life - maybe they've got kids, and they use them as an anchor.

Depression is a personal thing - it affects people in different ways.

We live in a time where depression affects so many people that it is almost epidemic - and yet, few people think to ask themselves why...they'd rather pump the sufferer full of prozac and send them on their way.

Depression is the mental equivalent of physical pain. SO it would be logical to ask about the form and function of pain.

Pain is simply your body's way of responding to situations that are harmful to itself (ie: touching a hot stove, or jumping off a roof). The pain/pleasure response mechinism is an extremely important survival tool which acts as a barrometer of what is good for us and what is not.

It is no different with depression/happiness except than rather than physical it is mental. This means our emotions act as a barometer of the general state of our mental well being. This can be influenced by a great many things, but one of the most influential is definately how your living your life when evaluated against your moral standards. If your living life true to your beliefs in every respect then you'll find yourself quite pleasent most of the time.

If you, like me, find your life a tar pit of pointless bullshit and feel nothing but contempt for living in the suburbs with your folks when your 20 years old, well, your not going to be happy. And you shouldn't be, it would be abnormal! Am I depressed? Definately. Is it a logical depression? Absolutely. There is no doubt in my mind as to why I feel so lousy all the time, and further, there is no doubt in my mind about how to remidy this. It took me 2 years of figuring before I could grasp this basic understanding, but I have. Basically my life does not represent that which I live for. Which is definately a problem. But at this point, for me, I have little to no choice as where I want to be takes time, work, and effort to get to. Which I'm engaged in doing right now Does that in and of itself make me happy? A little... But I suspect my life will change in a big way, and for the better, once I accomplish these goals.

Just a lil philosophy from my point of view...

[RESiNATE]

Yups, Buck...but what if you have no direction or goals?
What if, everything that you believed would be true, turned out to be a complete fallacy?

You are absolutely right - the goals that one sets for oneself have to be worked at...on many levels - and many people succeed to varying degrees.
They all succeed - IMHO - because, even if they 'fail' to reach their goals (by whatever circumstance), then at least they have tried. And, in so doing, have acheived a great deal more than someone who hadn't even bothered to get out of their chair.

I had dreams and goals, as I had beliefs, but sometimes, life gets in the way, you know what I mean?

I am 37 this year, and have so many qualifications and bits of paper, that I could be anything that I want to be (theoretically speaking lol) - but if I don't know what I want to be, then all the bits of paper in the world won't help me.
How do I find the goal, if I don't even know where the goal is, or indeed what it looks like?

And so begins the cycle....

Living with your folks aint that bad, dude - the thing that you're working towards should sort you out with plenty of opportunities...then you'll look back on these times, and say "Hey - it wasn't so bad...look at me now! WooHoo!"
lol

@'logical depression'..nicely put, dude

I dunno, life asks so much of us, sometimes, that it is hard to see the point of it all...but I guess that there's always a point...it's just seeing the fucker, that gets to be a problem lmaoo

Has anyone seen my point?

[Dick Justice]

Yups, Buck...but what if you have no direction or goals?
What if, everything that you believed would be true, turned out to be a complete fallacy?

Did you once have a government job?




Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood.


Seriously, though. The last time I was up against a genuine crisis of my life, I sat in the woods and ate mushrooms. I gained more insight into the situation and all its aspects than I ever could have on any other train of thought, and I ended up making the right decision in the long run. I'll spare you the details.

But that's really what I recommend. Think on it with mushrooms--alone.

[RESiNATE]

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[RESiNATE]

Did you once have a government job?

hahaha...I think that there'd be a restraining order in place, if I ever went near a government building...
"OH SHIT...IT'S RESiNATE...he's got some crazy ideas about using common-sense, or summat..SHIT...GET HIM AWAY!!"

lmao

But that aside, when I discovered the truth about my wife's affair with my 'best mate', weed helped me to view the situation in a composed fashion...rather than the homicidal-maniac, cut them the fuck up, burn their bodies in a dumpster, kinda fashion
But, everyone is different - and using drugs don't neccessarily facilitate a 'clear view' of the situation. (was that good grammar?)

Anyways, yes...what was the question again?