thanks dude. yeah i feel kinda lame cause i'm only 18, i know their still around but i probably won't ever see them. plus nothing will ever be as good as we know you suck. that album plus a summer full of stolen snickers and cokes from 7/11 and ditch sessions all day is the epitomy of what a 16 year olds summer should be. i know i enjoyed it back then.

that other band i never heard of but i went through this 80s hardcore phase baaaddd and couldn't put it down (haha 21st century). I went and saw verbal abuse and poison idea in austin i think that same summer or the next one. that was a bad ass show, so i can say i got a little culture in my blood.

also if you were real into those bands in that time i suggest you go and watch american hardcore documentary. that was a good movie. talks to alot of the guys in those bands back then talking about their scenes and shit.