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10-29-2007, 11:51 PM #1
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
the war on drugs is working!! you lose your rights, but oh well...
Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning [align=left] MEGAN GILLIS
Ottawa Sun
Monday October 29, 2007[/align]
A Vanier woman is claiming police brutality after tactical team officers with a warrant to search for drugs broke down her door Thursday, shot two of her dogs to death and terrified her teen daughters.
Joanne Charlebois said she was spending the evening packing for a move with the help of friends, and her daughters, aged 16 and 19, were studying with a pal, when men in helmets broke down the door of her McArthur Ave apartment.
Charlebois claims officers gave no warning before shooting the dogs, whom she says were gentle mutts who were running away in fear. They left bullet holes in the floor and a casing under the sofa.
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"I heard bangs at the front door, they knocked the door in," a weeping Charlebois said. "I thought it was a joke for Halloween.
'THEY BLEW HER HEAD OFF'
"Then click, boom, boom. My dog (Daisy) was in the air, her legs shaking. Then my dog Maxine came running to me and they blew her head off right next to me.
"They came in and terrorized my household. They killed our dogs ... I'm traumatized, my daughters are traumatized."
The officers kept asking where the cocaine and guns were hidden and tore the place apart.
Charlebois says she had small quantities of pot and cocaine for personal use but showed documents indicating she faces three counts of possession for the purpose of trafficking and one count of possessing of the proceeds of crime.
Ottawa Police, who didn't tell the media about the raid, could not confirm what was found or what charges were laid.
Staff-Sgt. David Veinotte said officers arrested eight people.
"They were confronted by pit bull mixes inside the premises," Veinotte said.
A spokeswoman for the Ottawa Humane Society says the two dead dogs delivered to them by the police were pitbull or mastiff types and weighed about 85 lbs. each.
The shooting is under investigation by the professional standards section, which is normal procedure.
ALWAYS TWO SIDES
"There are always two sides to every story," Veinotte said of the incident.
Martina Charlebois, 19, says she was cuffed and thrown down as she reached for her dead pets to comfort them.
"They dragged me through the blood, " she said.
"He had his foot to the back of my head and a gun to my head. I just wanted to touch them."
The teen spent the night in jail, where she was strip-searched, before being released with her mother. Martina, who wasn't charged, said she hasn't been able to eat or sleep since.
"This is what they did to my family," Charlebois said, clutching photos of her dogs' bloodied bodies. "What they did is wrong."pisshead Reviewed by pisshead on . Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning the war on drugs is working!! you lose your rights, but oh well... Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning MEGAN GILLIS Ottawa Sun Monday October 29, 2007 A Vanier woman is claiming police brutality after tactical team officers with a warrant to search for drugs broke down her door Thursday, shot two of her dogs to death and Rating: 5
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10-30-2007, 12:16 AM #2
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
am i supposed to feel bad that a mother with two kids who does drugs got her dogs killed?
because i do not.
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10-30-2007, 01:40 AM #3
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
Yeah, because if you use drugs you're not a human being any more, and your dogs deserve to die. Frig man you're as bad as all these drug-war neo-cons; they're all just "dope fiends" that should lose all constitutionally-appointed rights. You know I heard a rumor that you smoke pot sir, somebody blow away your pets and terrorize your children.
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
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10-30-2007, 01:53 AM #4
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
Well i guess if i came over to your house and brutally killed your dogs, you wouldn't care.....right?
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
After all, you ARE on a cannabis forum, and it's considered a drug....
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10-30-2007, 01:56 AM #5
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
i guess you an i see things very differently.
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10-30-2007, 02:09 AM #6
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
she did endanger her self and her household but the popo went to the extremes to get to some drugs. two wrongs in my opinion.
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10-30-2007, 02:48 AM #7
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
It wasn't just pot.......the "other" puts ya over the edge in the eyes of the law. This is Canada were talking about here.....I don't think this is common practice for a "pot user" but common for coke heads.
The also had a warrent, she had pitbulls; "gentle mutts who were running away in fear". SURE they were....somebody strange busts in the door and two pitbulls are going to go runnin' away. Simple logic says thats a load of crap.
Have a good one!:s4:
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10-30-2007, 07:00 AM #8
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
This why here in America we can legally own guns.If somebody busts your door down just start shooting them.If I sat on a jury where a women shot some people busting the door in I'd say not guilty.
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10-30-2007, 08:12 AM #9
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
Ok, i know this sounds awful, but i live in ottawa, and if you are living in vanier, that says it all right there. You guys are right, i have never heard of the ottawa police doing that over just pot. frankly you dont know her legal history, if shes gotten in trouble before, what she is involved with.
now i do know nice people in vanier myself, i have friends that live there. but frankly, having spent enough time there i can pretty safely say its not a nice area at all, there are a lot of drug and prostitution issues in vanier. I wouldnt walk alone there at night for all the money in the world.
Her story sounds nice, and i want to feel badly for her i do, but i would take what the ottawa sun writes with the worlds biggest grain of salt. its a trashy news paper. All of the Sun news papers are really trashy. it is very sensationalist and bends the truth in a big way.
Do i think the cops used undo force. yes.
do i think the story has been exaggerated by the media? yes.
killerweed owning guns is not illegal in canada. we can legally own guns, i assure you even in the cold they work. :P
and no you cant just shoot someone who busts down your door. the police are granted permission by the state to use only as much force as needed in order to handle a given situation. you cannot shoot them, it is a crime. a jury will convict someone who shot a cop.
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10-30-2007, 11:39 AM #10
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Police Batter Down Teenager's Door, Blow Off Dog's Head Without Warning
i dont care what drugs anybody was using. seeing your pets being brutally murdered and being dragged away to jail is worse for you than any drug. i think the media should take a hard line against crooked brutal cops who help no one. always give the citizens the benefit of the doubt, not the cops like the media usually does. was it the daughter or the mother that they were after?
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