Only at day 7 12/12 with Strawberry Cough(DP seeds) and would say they are tallish plants and stretching a bit more than other strains in my grow. They will surely require some technique to ensure your height limitations aren't exceeded. They respond very nicely to LST and throw up multiple colas. Haven't had any nute issues yet and excepting the need to control height I can't say it's a hard grow to this point. 100% germination and luckily 100% females. They show sex by early preflowers @ week 3 from popping seed. That is an important aspect to someone growing in a confined space(early sexing), to allow the females to get prime light position. If you do LST expect some big bushes going into flower!