none of the saw movies are even very gorey, i love them because they give me stuff to think about and analyze, most parts that are gorey are shot very quickly and dont give much gore at all, theres movies that will give a continuous shot of somone getting disected or some shit for thirty minutes straight, compared to shit like that saw is nothing, also i think that the reason a lot of people like saw is that they like a killer that they can identify with and one that isnt completely evil or has a reason for what he does, sure theres flaws but its a good concept.

i have yet to see saw 4 but i cant wait!