these movies arent supposed to be taken so seriously. These are the Halloweens and Nightmare on Elmstreets of OUR time. Sure, you can say "Saw doesnt even compare to those classics," but, in 20 years, people are going to be saying the same thing about Saw and whatever is out at the time.

Its supposed to be a nearly plotless gorefest where the killer keeps coming back, even if the idea is totally illogical. They arent really "great" movies, but I like them.

And as far as they go, I might even say this is the best of the 4. There are no lame one liners or annoying characters, just a bunch of ridiculous contraptions.