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    When I was in 5th grade, a huge part part of the semester was dedicated to Hellen Keller. WHY? I still remember that time (was the best time of my life) and I remember our class was very lively and rowdy. When it was Hellen keller time everybody got depressed. Sure it's fucking depressing, she's deaf & blind and goes UG UG. What the fuck happened to the quality of life rule? They should have smothered that bitch when she was an infant. If not for her own suffering, what about the children that had to learn about that muserable cursed cunt.

    The educational system is a complete joke. Making kids read about a woman who should have committed suicide only makes them want to commit suicide. I remember asking "Why didn't she just kill her self?" and I got detention for a week.

    Reading, writing, spelling, math, science. Nothing else should matter. Teach a child to read and THEN LET THE CHILD READ WHAT HE/SHE IS INTERESTED IN! Not what the board of education got a good deal on. Not what moved the head of the district, but what the child wants. What the child loves. Nurture the hidden talent of the child.

    When I was a kid (6ish) I was in love with metal. I loved all objects metal and would watch a welder do his thing for hours. I'd read up on it in the library, look up metal working in the encycelo... that big book, you know Britinaca. School didn't let me read or study what I wanted, what I loved. They made me study about Hellen Keller. Her life, what she accomplished, how she lived and how she died. What has the knowledge of Hellen Keller done for me? NOTHING.

    My love/interest of metal? I own a machine shop specializing in fabrication. I have 23 employees, a mortgage, a nice tax bill and I know if I were allowed to read & study it more as a child, I'd be a lot better off then I am today.

    If a kid is interested in electronics, let him/her run with electronics and they may get bored and find another interest. Forcing a child to read about the fucking Civil War and why, when, where it was fought is useless.

    Unless of course you are one of those Redneck Civil War junkies that re-enact it every year.
    Tony1234567890 Reviewed by Tony1234567890 on . Deep Thoughts When I was in 5th grade, a huge part part of the semester was dedicated to Hellen Keller. WHY? I still remember that time (was the best time of my life) and I remember our class was very lively and rowdy. When it was Hellen keller time everybody got depressed. Sure it's fucking depressing, she's deaf & blind and goes UG UG. What the fuck happened to the quality of life rule? They should have smothered that bitch when she was an infant. If not for her own suffering, what about the children that Rating: 5

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    I agree completly! Most things we learn in school are useless... but yet we HAVE to learn, against our will... even if were only to forget later... yes, its a waste of time and memory space...

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    i actually don't remember anything i ever did in school. not a thing. nothing i learned is remembered, nothing i did i can recall. no i wasn't high, at the time i was against any and all drugs, even caffeine. school is bullshit, i was reading at age 3, and i remember just about every book ive read in the last 4 years, and ive read around 1200+ books. i dont even read often. school didnt help me, in fact it got me in a lot of trouble, mainly due to disruption, skipping class to get laid, and sleeping. school is BULLSHIT!
    \"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh... Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof.\"ostgood:

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    damn i agree ive always thought, if a kid is interested in something, let him do that one thing all his life so when hes older he will be perfect for his job, instead of teaching him 16 years of bullshit then let him go to university for 4 years and cram in one thing when you couldve taught him it when he was younger and let him go off and do his thing at an earlier age, it wastes your life, you could learn one thing for 16 years and when your 18 have your perfect job perfect wage and do what you want, instead of being able to work when your 21 and then haf to pay your university fees off wich wastes even more time

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    The fact that English class is required for all 12 years of someone's schooling says something about the students. If you are still learning English when you are 18 years old then you fail at life. But this isn't the kid's fault, it's the school's, for thinking kids need to know this. Do I need to know how to find the transversal of a triangle? No, and I forgot as soon as we took the test about stuff like that. School is a social device designed to babysit kids for 8 hours a day while the parents go off to work. The only thing taught that is worthwhile is history (and even that isn't necessary)- the rest of it is interesting but it is still useless bullshit! The best way is to foster a love of learning in your kids, as my parents did, and your child will teach themselves the way the world works and anything else they want to know. All the practical skills that I still use and remember today were taught to myself by myself. The schools do nothing.

    "I try not to let my schooling get in the way of my education."
    -Mark Twain

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    I think you guys use a lot more of what you learned that you think you do. In school, you learn a subject, and you also learn how to think about that subject. Learning math teaches you how to think in steps and theories. Learning science teaches you how to problem solve, and even morally (scientific method is the same thing we do when making moral considerations). Languages teaches you how to convert thoughts into other thoughts at a fast pace. PE teaches you self motivation and team work. Art teaches you how to express your creativity.

    If we don't force kids to learn a broad amount of subjects, then they truly will never find their talents, most of the time. How many adults now are doing something other than what they wanted to be when they were a kid? Most of them. If we just let kids study whatever they wanted, then we wouldn't have many mathematicians, chemists, engineers. We would have a lot more astronauts, fire fighters, and vets though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coledog855
    I think you guys use a lot more of what you learned that you think you do. In school, you learn a subject, and you also learn how to think about that subject. Learning math teaches you how to think in steps and theories. Learning science teaches you how to problem solve, and even morally (scientific method is the same thing we do when making moral considerations). Languages teaches you how to convert thoughts into other thoughts at a fast pace. PE teaches you self motivation and team work. Art teaches you how to express your creativity.

    If we don't force kids to learn a broad amount of subjects, then they truly will never find their talents, most of the time. How many adults now are doing something other than what they wanted to be when they were a kid? Most of them. If we just let kids study whatever they wanted, then we wouldn't have many mathematicians, chemists, engineers. We would have a lot more astronauts, fire fighters, and vets though.
    Because the only way to learn to think is in school. Because the only way to learn how to be artistic is in art class. Because helping people is impossible unless you take PE, right? People don't decide what they want to be in school. Schools don't teach kids how to do taxes, how to be police officers, how to sit at a desk slaving away in front of a computer. As people grow older they start to learn the kinds of things they enjoy and base their career decisions off of those.

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    The fact that English class is required for all 12 years of someone's schooling says something about the students.
    Obviously your logic is horribly flawed. The people that write our newpapers and magazines and novels go to school for 16+ years learning english.

    Do I need to know how to find the transversal of a triangle? No, and I forgot as soon as we took the test about stuff like that.
    Ok, but someone in your class remembered it, and they are probably using math in their job today. I never liked biology or nature, until I took a biology course in high school because I had to for the diploma requirements. I liked it, and learned that there is so much more to nature than what we see. Now I'm a marine biology scholar at one of the top marine biology schools in the united states. If I wasn't forced to take biology in high school, then I wouldn't be in my position right now.



    The best way is to foster a love of learning in your kids, as my parents did, and your child will teach themselves the way the world works and anything else they want to know. All the practical skills that I still use and remember today were taught to myself by myself.
    We don't live in a utopia. Believe it or not, every child doesn't have two loving and intellectual parents. And not every child is literate, self structured, and intelligent. Going to school teaches kids structure, discipline, individuality, cooperations, and every other social skill. If you have any friends who were home schooled, then you'd know that those kids lack some major social skills, and in general are very poor at communicating with those who grew up socializing with others 8 hours a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbj123
    Because the only way to learn to think is in school. Because the only way to learn how to be artistic is in art class. Because helping people is impossible unless you take PE, right? People don't decide what they want to be in school. Schools don't teach kids how to do taxes, how to be police officers, how to sit at a desk slaving away in front of a computer. As people grow older they start to learn the kinds of things they enjoy and base their career decisions off of those.
    Nope, but the easiest and more efficient way to gain such a variety of necessary skills is to attend school. Humans are not smart enough, 99.9%, of the time to be self taught in subjects like chemistry, math, physics, and reading.

    We don't teach kids those things in school, but we teach them the pieces they need to be successful at those things. You learn math, cognitive decision making, and language rules in school so that they may be successful accountants, cops, and programmers.

    Show me an example of a person who never went to school and became successful and I will be more open to your theory that school is useless. Remember, you're not the first to question whether school is necessary or not. In just about every society in the world, a form of schooling structure is used because it is the BEST way to make your society more efficient and intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coledog855
    Nope, but the easiest and more efficient way to gain such a variety of necessary skills is to attend school. Humans are not smart enough, 99.9%, of the time to be self taught in subjects like chemistry, math, physics, and reading.

    We don't teach kids those things in school, but we teach them the pieces they need to be successful at those things. You learn math, cognitive decision making, and language rules in school so that they may be successful accountants, cops, and programmers.

    Show me an example of a person who never went to school and became successful and I will be more open to your theory that school is useless. Remember, you're not the first to question whether school is necessary or not. In just about every society in the world, a form of schooling structure is used because it is the BEST way to make your society more efficient and intelligent.
    While you do speak the truth, for the most part, school is also a great way to indoctrinate children to certain beliefs. My main example for this would be the ridiculous "zero tolerance" policies popping up in many elementary, middle, and high schools. Personally, I believe that our educational system is currently flawed. Although, it does pump out obedient working snitches who support things like the drug war, and other non-sense.

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