I just wrote a long dissertation about how much Reeferman strains suck, lol, but decided to give you the short version: IF you want Reefermans 'Willie Nelson', you can buy it from Hemp Depot for about $75 ... IF you want a sativa, that will take 14+ weeks just to flower, go for it ... IF you want unstable genetics, and terrible germination, go for it ... IF you want 12-foot outdoor trees, with tiny popcorn buds, go for it ... IF you want a plant that will be a nightmare to manicure, with al those 'pine-needle' leaves, go for it ... is it powerful ?, yeah, it's pretty potent ... will I, or my professional-growing friend, ever use Reeferman's seeds again ?? ... you gotta be kiddin' , I wouldn't buy his garbage again if it cost a nickel, I would be afraid of it contaminating my other genetics ... you probably ask: "if it's so bad, why did he win the High Times Cannabis Cup with it ?" ... same way everybody wins the Cup, by spending tons of $$$ on High Times advertising, and bribes ... TIP:. if you want a beautiful 'UP' plant, get Joey Weed's Cinderella 99, or one of her hybrid sisters, you'll be a LOT happier ... :jointsmile: