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10-23-2007, 10:31 AM #1OPSenior Member
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and at this point it's a qustion.... but i do ask that anyone with STRONG disagreement stayout of it (as in those who would say things like quitting is for pussies or w/e)
anyways, i do have to speifcy i do have to point out i am no in anyway considering stoppping using 'mind alternating chemcials' whether they be weed, alcohol or anything else....
at this point i's just merely a 'soul seeker' question...
do you have plans to ever stop it all and sober? or do you just go whevere the wind blows your sails? when i'm sober alli can think about is getting high... because the only time i can get my mind to slow down (i've had alot of emotional trauma in my life) and just stop so i can allow myself to be normal is by altering my sober state.... it doen't matter what i do, when i'm not sober i can't think quite right or as well.... so naturally when i am sober, and can think perfectly and perform at a higher rate then the population (as in if you split the population between slower minds and faster minds i'd be on the faster side, problems solvers and those who never stop thinking) anyways....
even with all that, when i get non-sober, i start feeling bad about myself... not because of what i'm doing, but because of why i'm doing it.... i've been through drug therpay clases and i was also locked up in ap lace that has a rehab program in it.... so i when i say, in fewer words 'i use it fix my problems' i feel even worse.... because that's the whole mentality that AA and similar programs feed on.... that a drug will never solve your problems, and i agree with that, but that doesn't mean it can't and won't help you deal with said problems (i don't ignore them either, i just don't lose my head, i'm more calm and rational)
but then when i go sober again, i realize i need said thing to 'be happy'... os it's like this continous circle.... when i have it, i'm fine and normal, and when i don't, i'm at rock bottom.... but that of course means when i have it, i do n't really wanna do it anymore.... but that just makes what i stated above even worse.... it ties into the 'one last thing time' only i never say it's one last time... i just get sober and realize life is going to be very hard without it...
and i do realize i'm rambling, but i want all my feeelings, thoughts an theories out there.... i don't confirm or deny i sound like the typical addict, that's not why i posted this here, i posted here to see if anyone ever feels the same... and if so what percentage do....
i already know, clinically i DO have a problem but those docotrs just group people together.... i mean you have you manic depressives, your shiczo's, etc.... but there are also diffrent levels, only doctors only really label it under one catagorey.... so yes, clinicly i have a problem, but on a perosnal basis they can't call that since everything reacts to people diffrent...
sorry that this is long, but i have alot of feeelings tied up into it, and it's been on my mind a long long time...slipknotpsycho Reviewed by slipknotpsycho on . have a serious question and at this point it's a qustion.... but i do ask that anyone with STRONG disagreement stayout of it (as in those who would say things like quitting is for pussies or w/e) anyways, i do have to speifcy i do have to point out i am no in anyway considering stoppping using 'mind alternating chemcials' whether they be weed, alcohol or anything else.... at this point i's just merely a 'soul seeker' question... do you have plans to ever stop it all and sober? or do you just go whevere the Rating: 5
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10-23-2007, 10:56 AM #2Senior Member
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Didnt you just say you got your connect back? Why dont you just smoke weed all the time..drink alcohol in moderation with occasional puking..but nothing else..that is the shit that is fucking with your mind..if you just stay with the weed..1..you will not crave it anymore because it is there..and you can control how much you wanna use to medicate yourself from the past..I understand growing up for you was fucked, but there is only one way is to move forward..marijuana will take you there, I am tellling you....forget them fucking rehab programs, it does not help all, it didnt for me and apparently it didnt for you..I am sure you cant afford expensive therapy..so that only leaves you one option brother:joint1:
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10-23-2007, 11:22 AM #3Senior Member
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I have no plans to quit smoking pot.
Pot does not distract me from doing what I need to do in life. I have strong goals and do not get thrown off track when I am high.
I am not quite sure what you are asking. But I hope you find what you are looking for.
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10-23-2007, 11:25 AM #4Senior Member
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Hi friend. It feels as though I've written that out. Don't feel bad man. Just go with the flow. I too feel JUST like you, cross my heart an hope to die. People that say toking is alright and its' good, yes it is, but it's not harmless. It DOES have side effects, some major ones too, but you have to ask yourself, if it's worth it or not?
I too find it hard switching from sober/high/high/sober....but it's all part of the process. I feel bad alot when I smoke but you shouldn't really. It's just because it's illegal. I have to remind myself that it's only bad because it's illegal? I wouldn't say it's changed me, it's made me a better more understanding and open minded person. The people i've met through toking, the rules of life, the lies? you know? Loads of good things have come out of it. I enjoy the IDEA of smoking more than smoking itself.
I do want to quit for good, but find it hard to quit, although I know, obviously, I'm not going to toke forever. As long as you are questioning yourself, and doubting yourself, I think that's the only thing that matters. You acknowledge you MAY be wrong. But I think that's down to the people's perceptions of it, and it being called a 'Drug'. I look for hope and inspiration, like fellow tokers who you know, are doing alright and good but I don't seem to find any. Too many tokers live up to the stereotype (including me), but it's our job to change that?
And you clown, why are you saying it's long, I was really into that. I know MANY MANY tokers wont admit it, but they too have problems with it. They just dont want to admit it. Sometimes I hate weed, you know. Sometimes before I go sleep, I think fuck that...I'm not doing it again, because of various reasons. But then I toke again thinking, oh welll, it's only one joint.
Some people can smoke once in a month, or even a year and not be affected by it. I really do think it's all in the mind. In an ideal world, I wouldn't want to quit, but this bastard society has made ito ut to bad, so in order to live a 'normal, sane' life, keeping others (i.e family etc) happy, maybe you have to make sacrifices.
If you can CONTROL weed, then I think your loving it. It's really hard, and I'm trying to figure it out myself. I'm still working on it. I've been on it 9 months now and I feel bad but then I think there are chronic smokers who have smoked for decades...imagine what they go through? Then again, they have the lifestyles to accomodate it. Do you have a job??? Why do you feel bad?? is smoking weed and drink all you do? I don't have a job at the minute, so that's why I probably feel bad, but once I get a job...it's all good. Then I'll start feeling good about myself. I'm earning, not wasting time thinking ..."shall i smoke..." but instead....all throughout that shit day at work, just looking forward to that toke, you know? Like a reward. I'm a hypocrite cuz I'm not preaching what I practise, but it's going to change.
But on the whole....I don't think weed is really really bad. It could be much worse? Just go with the flow man, whatever your heart says, do that. If you wanna smoke, smoke, if you don't, fuck it. Only YOU can make that choice.....
Sorry, I know this doesn't answer your question completely, but the only positive outlook and the true reality of life is...."it's too fucking short..." and remind yourself...in a 100 years...you will be dead. No more you.
GOOD LUCK with whatever you do man, and keep us informed on how you get along. We're all here for you!!!!:thumbsup:
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10-23-2007, 11:28 AM #5Senior Member
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hero3279, you are one amazing individual man!
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10-23-2007, 11:32 AM #6Senior Member
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Why? CanaDanks, you are a even more amazing one for saying something like that
I hope your a girl so it's not a sausage fest, haha nah really. Thank you. You've made my day whoever you are man. I love you!
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10-23-2007, 11:40 AM #7Senior Member
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Mwahahah! I wish I had boobs.. damn!
Seriously though, I really find your posts open minded and real. You seem to be able to think in a broad perspective, which is not that common. A lot of people on this site are like that as well, but I like the way you think. You definitely don't put yourself ahead of others, yet you seem to always come out on top!
I'm feeling really empathetic tonight and had been trying too hard to answer this post for slip.. well you took the words out of my head. Now you owe me!!
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10-23-2007, 11:42 AM #8Senior Member
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Originally Posted by hero3279
to hero...you will struggle with the thought of quitting weed...I have many times...i have thrown pipes, bongs, papers...even dumped a brand new quarter of some dank ass shit in the lawn..but I think I have come to realize is what I like it in my life...and that is good enough for me...and I smoked weed for the first time 27 years ago..thats awesome..what a wonderful plant.
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10-23-2007, 11:44 AM #9Senior Member
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Originally Posted by geonagual
Yea man, I have done similar things as well. I used to feel bad about my weed smoking since it was so constant...
One day I realized how fortunate I was to be able to get high with such good herbals. Since then, I get real fucking happy when I'm high :rastasmoke:
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10-23-2007, 11:53 AM #10Senior Member
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We're all in the same boat man. It HAS to be addiction though. HASSSS to be. It's probably near to none but there is addiction. 27 years and you say you have tried so hard to quit??? There's so much a person can do. If it was so easy to quit, everyone would quit cold turkey. Everything else is an excuse. I just love people who ADMIT it and are honest. So what if it's addictive? People just feel ashamed or bad thinking oh crap, I'm addicted, but fuck that. I'm addicted to jacking off, Who's going to sue me for that? Just go with it.
I think when the true time comes, we will know, that's it. Do you picture yourself smoking weed when your 70? No man, I'm sure loads of people who toked in the 60's outgrew it probably, and don't smoke now. It's just a phase in life.....and some people are lucky to go through that phase. I think pot smokers are really special people.
This is a quote from the movie "Human traffic"....sums up tokers I think.
"We wanna go somewhere else. We're not threatened by people anymore. All our insecurities have evaporated. We're in the clouds now. We're wide open. We're spacemen orbiting the earth. The world looks beautiful from here, man. We're nympholeptics, desiring for the unobtainable. We risk sanity for moments of temporary enlightenment. So many ideas. So little memory. The last thought killed by anticipation of the next. We embrace an overwhelming feeling of love. We flow in unison. We're together. I wish this was real. We want a universal level of togetherness, where we're comfortable with everyone. We're in rhythm. Part of a movement. A movement to escape. We wave goodbye. Ultimately, we just want to be happy. Heh, yeah, hang on, what the fuck was I just talking about?"
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